Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Than ks for your replies. It seemed from your Holden V6 thread how you didnt want one and didnt like them and then a few opinions changed you so rapidly. It seemed like you were easily led. I tlooks like you may be getting a handle on it so good work and good luck.

Although I would recommend against using a winch in a lifting situation, as they are specifically not designed for that purpose and it is stated in most winch manuals that they are not to be used as a hoist. I personally have used unsafe lifting procedures before. I would advise against it, but am not trying to say I always do things correct. Because I don't!

bj on roids wrote:Than ks for your replies. It seemed from your Holden V6 thread how you didnt want one and didnt like them and then a few opinions changed you so rapidly. It seemed like you were easily led. I tlooks like you may be getting a handle on it so good work and good luck.

Although I would recommend against using a winch in a lifting situation, as they are specifically not designed for that purpose and it is stated in most winch manuals that they are not to be used as a hoist. I personally have used unsafe lifting procedures before. I would advise against it, but am not trying to say I always do things correct. Because I don't!

Do as I say not as I do

Thanks for your post BJ, as for the conversion the I have chosen the exact engine from a commodore wreckers in Melbourne, out of a VR with only around 100'000 on the clock getting it complete for around $1000 and comes with a 3mth replacement warranty.

Is costing around $80 toget it all sent down.

I will pay for the order hopefully next week and recieve the engine 3-4days after that!!

As for the winch, my user manual states that it can be used as a hoist for up to 1600kgs so it is all good..

How is your build up going?

I cleaned up the engine bay a bit more today and got rid of more wiring, and put some new condute around some vonrable (sp?) wires.

Anyway it is all looking good.
I have been quoted $240 for the PBR Heavy Duty Clutch Kit (suite the VR engine), which seems to be a good price.


Take it easy all,
Regards,
Nick

nice..... so at least you read instructions. mine had a picture of the winch being used as a hoist and a cross through it like a no smoking sign.

Maybe i shouldnt of tried to roll the winch up and smoke it

Julian would have!!

Nick i don't get how u work out the holden motor to be cheaper???? u r paying $1000 bucks for it in melbourne?? and u still need all the adaptors????? The 1G motor is $850 in melbourne and u don't need any adaptors??/ As for spare parts u can get them shipped cheap from melb too........

mmmmmmmmmmmm best of luck!!!!

sorry don't mean to b negative just trying to save u some head aches.

bj on roids wrote: I would seriously harass bundytime for everything he knows about the 1G and go that route!!! He is the bundy master on here!!

sorry couldn't find a big head pic

Cheers Daniel

Surely if you were going to fit the 1G then you might as well go for the 7M and get more power from a similar sized package ??

We've got a dude here with te 1G-GE in a lux and it does go well but has very little low down ?

Nick, did you get a rear dropped sump from Marks? if so can you post a pic of it, I'm looking to move my motor back and thought about one of these.
Don't use a heavy duty clutch kit , either go with the V8 clutch plate and the V6 pressure plate or use what Marks sell. I tried a heavy duty kit and took it out after 10k, Way too heavy.

John.

I havn't got a reversed sump as yet. I will try to make one myself before I fork out around $300 for one. If you email Marks I am sure they would be able to send you a photo.

Thanks for your advice Daniel, I know that I will be having to fork out loads of $$ for the adaptors (way more than the actual cost of the engine), but I am still going to go ahead wif me v6 commo engine. I think that this engine will suite my needs better.


Got a few other people interested in my 22r so hopefully I will sell it soon, enabling me to confirm my order.

Cheers,
Nick

BUNDERA wrote:I havn't got a reversed sump as yet. I will try to make one myself before I fork out around $300 for one. If you email Marks I am sure they would be able to send you a photo.

Yea right. I ask for a photo and dimenions of the V8 sump so I can see if it was going to suit my application with the diff moved forward and x-over steering. They refused because they said that I would just copy it

Here is the email ->

Thanks for your recent email. Unfortunately we have no picture of this sump. If I was to give you the measurements that would mean you would be able to make your own. Unfortunately I can't give you these.
Regards
XXXXXXXXX
sales

So how the hell are you meant to know if it is going to fit your application without measurements

IMO they would sell alot more products if they had pics and greater detail of products.

In the end I used an older carbed 308 sump, becuase of the respone from Marks. I would have purchased this product if they had been more forthcoming with information and it suited my application I was not going to spend my hard earned cash to only find out it would not fit

Chris.

ok i ordered my engine today....
I changed my mind and bought something different..(not the v6)


all I can say is pshhhhhhhhhhh!!

Did you order it from Rowlens?

Sorry to come in late, it looks like you are set on the V6, which is OK but the 4AGE/ZE/TE is as Bundytime sugests, "bolt in", many years ago I had a Bundera chassis I was turning into a mud racer and I put a 4AGTE into it, I used all toyota parts (bellhousing, engine mounts, flywheel, ect, ect) and it looked like it was meant to be there, and these engines have heaps of grunt, I went for a rid in a kit car with a 4AGTE and it hamered, the guy said they usualy put 350 chevs in them but he wanted somthing diferent and it went just as hard, I never went in the 350 one but the 4AGTE was real quick.
Another bonus for me was I paid $950 for the engine and trans and sold the 5 speed box for $500.
Good luck what ever way you go.
Peter.

What 4A style engine came with a G or W series box behind it? I have never seen this bellhousing in any Toyota.

Sorry Tony I don't know what a G or W series box is, I do know we swapped in a bellhousing from a pile that we sifted through at the wreckers.
What puzles you Tony, is it the 4A to the Bundera box or the 5 speed that came with it?
Peter.

Yeah the bundera runs a G52 5spd and a similar bellhousing also fits from a W56 5speed in a Hilux but i have never seen a bellhousing that will go from a 4A to either one of these 5speed Boxes.
Unless the AE86 sprinter ran a G or W series box?
I know all the earlier vehicles that ran a 4A in a rear wheel drive application did not use this box.

I don't know what it was from Tony but it was stock Toyota no drilling, no grinding, it came from Toyhatsu back when they where in East Kelor.
While I had it all bolted up with a bit of plumbing done I never finished it, I had a 45 body to put on it with fibreglass front but I came across a rolled Bundera soft top body cheap and we fixed it up real nice, the next thing I found I was putting carpet and suspension seats in my mud racer! I had fortunately kept the ID tags that came with the chassis and rego'ed it in about 91 and still drive it today, it has been a top truck, red, 35" muds and an frp top from a MWB cut down to fit (they should have come that way) I have not put a spanner on it from day one.
I may be able to locate that bellhousing in a push.
Peter.

yeah it is coming from rollins.

157kw (double what the 22r produced).


vrooom...pshhhhhh...vrooom...pshhhhhh

What type of engine is it ?
Peter.

Thanks Peter im not looking for one i was just curious as to what the bellhousing comes from.

Intercooled Six Cylinder 2.0L Twin Turbocharged Supra Engine (1GGTE) !!!

210hp(1GGTE)
105hp(Original 2.4L 22r Engine)

bundytime has the supercharged version which produces 165-185hp

Tony do you know if you can mod the 5 speed alloy supra box so it is 4wd? i doubt it but I thought u would know for sure...


Cheers,
Nick

The supra box is basicaly the same as the G52 you are running now. Even identical apart from ratios i beleive. The Supra turbo box however is a larger box and i dont think it can be converted.

I thought the supra box was stronger....

Do you think the g52 will be ok?

If you drive like me NO

do you think she will be able to lift the front wheel(s)?
or will I break the gearboxbefore I have a chance?

It may get them up once

so the old g52 is that weak hey?

So would you be able to spin em on the concrete without worrying? I used to be able to...just

What about once it is in gear and then hitting it rather than dumping it. That must be a lot better on it and lest likely to spit it...

Front bearings in the box are the biggest prob.

are they easy to replace ? expensive ?

I am sure I will have to replace a set or two in the near future.