Outer Limits 4x4 Board

bambam wrote:hey bogged, u must be the most cynical ( and ugliest, tell me that isn't your mug!) dudes, why could u not do serious 4x4ing in one? They are full steel bodies.

It depends on what you call 'serious 4x4ing"...

Shadow wrote:

grazza wrote:

Shadow wrote:i believe these cannot legally run the tyres they show in the pics.

so now picture it with 33's instead of those 37's in the pictures, they dont look anywhere near as imporessive :|

I think they would look much better with 33's

well actually 33's probably arent even legal on them. What size tyre did an MQ come with? 30" or 31"?

All the full size old girls (40 series, 75 series, 80 series, 100 series, G60, MQ, GQ, GU) have/ had 7.50 x 16 tyre option. That reads 32" diameter.

Bogged,

I think you need to realise one thing about the dynamics of a 4wd. its teh suspension that does teh 4wd'ing work, not the shape of the body above the chassis.

Jes

[quote]It depends on what you call 'serious 4x4ing"...

well I suppose bouncing a dedicated tube frame rock crawler down a hill is a bit different to what I intend to do with a hammer. So if that's what you call serious 4x4ing, then I'm a girly man and won't be 'serious 4x4ing.

jessie928 wrote:Bogged,

I think you need to realise one thing about the dynamics of a 4wd. its teh suspension that does teh 4wd'ing work, not the shape of the body above the chassis.

Jes

couldnt have said it better myself

bogged, body has very little to do with mechanics of 4wding, which is why i dont see why this hammer couldnt do serious 4wdriving, ie winch challenges and the like. I reckon it would do as well as the original body it's replacing if not better (lighter)

As far as I know.... Paul gets them complied with 35" tyres. You may have to call him and find out a bit more info on how this is done as I don't actually have it. As it is Pauls business he'll be able to tell you how he goes about it.

As far as their off road capabilities..... They'll go anywhere a modded Patrol will. You can use all the aftermarket suspension/steering etc for a Patrol as it is a Patrol chassis/drivetrain that is used. They just look different.

Cheers,
Ryano

jessie928 wrote:Bogged,

I think you need to realise one thing about the dynamics of a 4wd. its teh suspension that does teh 4wd'ing work, not the shape of the body above the chassis.

Jes

Oh I agree, but I was told that the bodies are wider on these (like the real hummers but not that bad) than standard patrols which could be a Cookie in tight sections in comps.

bambam, I chose to build the MQ/MK based Hammer (leaf springs), its only skinnier by 100mm, cause I picked up the whole car for $800 with only 158k on the clock, slight front panel damage, It had all the things I needed, power steering, LSD, Divorsed transfer (for ease of bolting up the 4 speed auto), and an un butchered wiring loom. the Wheels are 15 x 10 Pro comp alloys, the tyres are 35x12.1x15 Pro comp X-Terrains, the freight to Gero was Free, cause we bought 2, Paul said it was about $1300 ea.
More Chassis pics here

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=54576

Iv'e attatched a pic of a GQ based Hammer that Rhino's built for a customer in the US, apparenltly, the chassis are built to accept right and left hand drive components, so they say it's easy to convert.
Hoppy

Let me just say you canr get these complied with 35in tyres,

I built one at a previous job afor a customer and paul said it was the first one that anyone had put onto a gq he only had ever done mq/mk kits so let me tell you it was a major hassle trying to get the kit complete as alot was engeneered elsewhere.
the one i built had 35in tyres orange/harlequen paint inject 308 t700 custom tube bars and side steps and 4 seater with built in fridge /computer/ t.v and subs and amps and u name it it was in it but ha the customer was ova the moon about it i thought it was a bucket s-it.
only cause i no how the kit was as a apposed to a patrol i no what i would have spent me 60k on. not a hammer look a like

P.s Paul and the boys were extra helpful where needed

here some pics

choppa1978, 60 grand does sound a bit much eh, mine has a budget of 35 grand, there is one registered in perth with the same driveline as mine, he said that getting it registered was easy. I also got a pre approval for the building of the kit from the tech department at WA transport, they said that as long as I build it to how i stated in the application, i should have no worries, fingers crossed eh!!

I like the look of the gal' jeep bodies for the jx zooks $3500 sounds far.

choppa1978 wrote:Let me just say you canr get these complied with 35in tyres,

I built one at a previous job afor a customer and paul said it was the first one that anyone had put onto a gq he only had ever done mq/mk kits so let me tell you it was a major hassle trying to get the kit complete as alot was engeneered elsewhere.
the one i built had 35in tyres orange/harlequen paint inject 308 t700 custom tube bars and side steps and 4 seater with built in fridge /computer/ t.v and subs and amps and u name it it was in it but ha the customer was ova the moon about it i thought it was a bucket s-it.
only cause i no how the kit was as a apposed to a patrol i no what i would have spent me 60k on. not a hammer look a like

P.s Paul and the boys were extra helpful where needed

yeah i've worked on the car before too, it was abit of a nitemare of a car

After Xmas I will be looking into the pros and cons of building a Blizzard on a GQ SWB chassis, they at the moment are not DOT approved for Rhino to be building them and selling them as turn key vehicles, but for me to buy a shell and build my own it should be ok.
The Blizzard has been built as a convept car and DOT are being painful with approving it for him, but the Hammers etc are OK and have full approval.
But DOT have a specific clause for 1 of vehicles called "ICV", "Independantly Constructed Vehicles", which allows a little bit of slack for 1 off builds.
There is also a DOT approved engineer in Hervey Bay who can give me all the guidelines to build it to.

Or you could import one of these, I think you may have trouble getting one registered here though, they even supply a new chassis, springs and diffs
Hoppy
http://www.geep.biz/Geep_One_specs.htm

Due to the current ADR rules, and as much as we would like to, we are not sure if we are going to even release the Blizzards in Australia.We are only building the Blizzards for overseas clients as these pose no problem registering in the U.K. USA and Arab Emirates, even down to using the 38"tyres. As you know in certain states we cannot legally use 35" tyres.

whats theproblem with the ADR relating to the blizzard?

If its the rear/sides, just supply them as a " offroad" extra

?

Jes

Not quite that simple.We will need to modify wiper sweep, change the angle of the windscreen, possibly look to insert glass into the sides, prove adequate driver visability, side impact testing, seatbelt anchor point strength testing, plus, plus, plus.....basically because they are so different we think that the authorities just do not want them on the roads. We have also now built a Blizzard in long wheel base wagon configuration and will have a ute version available soon, all for overseas release.

Looks & Styling is a personal choice.

That said, i like them. so i'm currently building one.

Well done Rhino for having a go.

droidt wrote:Looks & Styling is a personal choice.

That said, i like them. so i'm currently building one.

Well done Rhino for having a go.

What model are you building and what chassis are you using

Nissan MQ 1980 using an ecotec and divorced transfer case.

Put body on one of them to day, fricking huge. i'm sure Hoppy will put pics up of it.

Hope to do the other one this this week.


cheers

I only have phone camera pics, got the body delivered about 8.30 in the morning, finnally got in on the chassis after hours of oooooh and aaaaaah's, the suspension only has a 2 spring lift and the body comes with a 2 inch lift, so the roof height is'nt much more than a lifted patrol, but cause the body is so wide and sqwat the sills are high off the ground and the wheel arches are so big, it just gives it a monster truck look. the rear end has come down a bit now, just had to flip the shackles back, cause they were pulled as far farward as they could go.
Hoppy

got the hood mounted and swinging on the weekend

and I started fitting some interior stuff
Hoppy

Hi maate , Lookinh real good. welldone,how much do you think or has it cost you so far WITHOUT the price of your doner vehicle.cheers

about 30000 soo far

Hoppy11 wrote:about 30000 soo far

what cost ya 30k.

customhilux wrote:

Hoppy11 wrote:about 30000 soo far

what cost ya 30k.

Body, new motor, box, wiring, wheels, tyres, seats, new radiator, complete new aircon system, inc the condensor, new suspension, complete bush kit, sandblasting the chassis, painting it, blah, blah, blah, little bits here, little bits there.

Hoppy

Just an update, the fire wall is now painted, the radiator and condenser are now fitted, new aircon unit is in, brakepedal and booster is in, modded steering column and power steering is hooked up, and the doors are off to get painted.
Hoppy