Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Micka wrote:

460cixy wrote:so do 80 seires front coils fit for sure? might be a cheap way for me to do a lift if it will give me 2inches and get them from the wreckers.

Not coils...the shocks fit.

I think 80 series coils have a little piggy tail bit on them.

I know that the 80 series shocks definitely fit.

Micka

Spot on about the coils Micka they do have a little piggy tail and are not flat like rover coils..

And 80 series shocks work a treat in the front with a shock turret spacer

i dident end up getting to the wreckers. how do nissan coils go?

Nissan coils have a wider diameter so they won't fit.

For The Rear
Most shocks are valved differently for compression then rebound which makes most Cruiser shocks not very suitable for the Rangie as you have to put the Cruiser shocks up side down to fit into the Rangie.

Shocks such as Biltein are mono valved so they are quite suitable to run upside down. They are valved the same for both compression and rebound.

I have heard of people doing a simple mod to get Cruiser coils to go on a Rangie, but I don't really see any point, because you get get a pretty good variety of after market stuff for the Rangie and it isn't so fashionable to lift a Rangie over 4 inches now days.

Shane

460cixy wrote:recon thay would work with the tail cut off? im thinking of investgateing some wreckers this arvo and find somthing that fits.

No.

oh well was worth a punt i guess

I know the imformation i am about to ask for is probably posted else where already but i have looked and cant find.
Going off what i have been told 3" suspension lift (96 disco) is a bit of a grey area in terms of drive line mods. I am keen to lift my suspension this much, just dont want rush into it and then my truck drives like a peice of shit with driveline problems. If anyone with any info please give me some pointers.

landy_man wrote:as for the dislocation cones - a spring that is retained will make the vehicle more stable and predictable offroad - ESPECIALLY in off camber situations

Not if they are 6" longer in free length.

4WD Stuff wrote:Nissan coils have a wider diameter so they won't fit.

For The Rear
Most shocks are valved differently for compression then rebound which makes most Cruiser shocks not very suitable for the Rangie as you have to put the Cruiser shocks up side down to fit into the Rangie.

Shocks such as Biltein are mono valved so they are quite suitable to run upside down. They are valved the same for both compression and rebound.

I have heard of people doing a simple mod to get Cruiser coils to go on a Rangie, but I don't really see any point, because you get get a pretty good variety of after market stuff for the Rangie and it isn't so fashionable to lift a Rangie over 4 inches now days.

Shane

You can change the top mount on the rangie rear to take a pin style shock like the 80 - easiest way of getting the 80s shocks under there. I have to get organised and do this .. I have the 80 series shocks in my garage waiting

Tom

In respect of ther vehicle shocks - I think you will find the best set up is 80 series front and GQ rears.

In respect of lift on the disco - mines a 94 model with 2 inch spring and 2 inch body.. This enables fitment of 35 inch simex's. Had to fit a double cardon front drive shaft due to vibration and have the OME caster bushes up front to help improve the steering.

TRobbo wrote:In respect of ther vehicle shocks - I think you will find the best set up is 80 series front and GQ rears.

That is the same as what I have, with a pin to eye convertor at the diff mount.

Patrol springs do not work for a fender.

In terms of Disco lifts...it really does depend on the car. Some vibrate with 1" lifts and some don't with a 6" lift.

Best to cut guards to make room for bigger tyres, as opposed to going higher. That way, your COG remains as low as possible.

You should not have any real dramas with a 3" lift.


Micka

IMO, the OME castor bushes are not that good...
better getting swivels rotated

landy_man wrote:IMO, the OME castor bushes are not that good...
better getting swivels rotated

IMHO.... I AGREE.

Ok so i guess its just put in and go from there. I am asuming that the 2" caster correction kit is going to help to some degree.

MONGREL wrote:Ok so i guess its just put in and go from there. I am asuming that the 2" caster correction kit is going to help to some degree.

it will help with catsor yes but the bushes are sh*t and hinder alot of much need flex.
unless you like the no flex front and all flex from the rear (ala nissan style) dont bother with castor bushes.

4WD Stuff wrote:For The Rear
Most shocks are valved differently for compression then rebound which makes most Cruiser shocks not very suitable for the Rangie as you have to put the Cruiser shocks up side down to fit into the Rangie.

Shocks such as Biltein are mono valved so they are quite suitable to run upside down. They are valved the same for both compression and rebound.

I have heard of people doing a simple mod to get Cruiser coils to go on a Rangie, but I don't really see any point, because you get get a pretty good variety of after market stuff for the Rangie and it isn't so fashionable to lift a Rangie over 4 inches now days.

Shane

Its the twin tube design of most shocks that prevents them from working properly upside down. The gas sits in the wrong spot unless its the corect way up.

Also the valving doesn't change based on the way the shock has been mounted. An shock will still have a stiffer rebound valving over compression however its mounted.

And.... Bilsteins are most definately valved differently between bump and rebound. These shocks can be run upside down as the gas pressure is captive by a piston and can not move around in the shock.

Running LC shock into Disco/Def is a pretty common affair.

Micka wrote:

TRobbo wrote:In respect of ther vehicle shocks - I think you will find the best set up is 80 series front and GQ rears.

That is the same as what I have, with a pin to eye convertor at the diff mount.

Micka

Got a photo so we can see what you have done ?

Cheers mate
Tom

my rangie had 80 series shocks up front and GQ at the back when i bought it, what is the advantage of this set up, and also is the 80 series shock the same as a 100 (maybe not the right place to ask)

They are longer travel, but probably also valved stiffer for better control.

And.... Bilsteins are most definately valved differently between bump and rebound. These shocks can be run upside down as the gas pressure is captive by a piston and can not move around in the shock.



Yep correct i run twin shocks in the rear of my truck & revalved by hesmans as they where too hard standard,work a treat

Britswed wrote:And.... Bilsteins are most definately valved differently between bump and rebound. These shocks can be run upside down as the gas pressure is captive by a piston and can not move around in the shock.



Yep correct i run twin shocks in the rear of my truck & revalved by hesmans as they where too hard standard,work a treat

Mal,
I am interested in getting some Bilsteins revalved - going to twin shocks. I would be grateful if you could post contact details for hesmans.

Pm sent john