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Post by Loanrangie »

460cixy wrote:i have a twin stromberg manifold at the moment . dont realy wanna change over cause the heads and shit have been machines and manifold to suit
That wont make any difference, just grind the top off and drill/ tap 4 holes.
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Post by 460cixy »

i could do that yes. cause the strombergs are crap with lpg
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Post by Rangie Thing »

Oxy sensor in, taken some pics today hope i can post them.
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Post by Rangie Thing »

Just a few more pics 3 seems to be max i can post.
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Post by Loanrangie »

Nice work mate, can you please list the parts you have used so far so i know what i will need when i go to pick a part to get the bits.

thanks,
nick.
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Post by 460cixy »

that looks great. should piss on any carby even if it is only cfi
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Post by Rangie Thing »

Parts list so far are full ea cfi loom with ecu, throtle body (will have to move idle control motor), dizzy is a stand aloan hall effect from a 253/308 holden (just put the insides into the p76 dizzy) but you can use the ford ea dizzy and just find a 8 window spinner, ford oxy sensor placed where both pipes come together, hope to use stock air cleaner and stil working on the fuel pump setup but a mate has a cfi fuel tank with pump so i will just sit it nearby to test run.
all so don't forget the coolent sensor and air tep sensor, may need the speedo sensor as the system changes when the speed drops off.
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Post by Loanrangie »

So is the hall effect needed for the ecu ?

Hi ho, hi ho, its off to pick a part we go !
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Post by Rangie Thing »

Yes hall effect is needed for the ecu, there is a thing on the side of the ford dizzy that sends a signal to the ecu and then the ecu sends a signal back to work the coil.
the dizzy should have no advance at all as the ecu does it.
you will need to find a 8 window for the dizzy with all the same sized legs. the mpi 6 and some ford v8 have one smaller than the others so the ecu knows where number one cyl is. ( i hope the cfi wont care how many cyl there are)
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Post by 460cixy »

if this works im doing it
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Post by Loanrangie »

Rangie Thing, where are you located ?
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Post by Rangie Thing »

I am in a little dump of a town called Nhill, halfway between melbourne and adelaide on the western hwy.
I get to melbourne from time to time.
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Post by Loanrangie »

Often stop there on the way to Adelaide where half my wifes family is.
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Post by Rangie Thing »

Will have to catch up on your way through one day.
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Post by Loanrangie »

How is the conversion going, you far off firing it up ?
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Post by Rangie Thing »

Tomorrow i hope to find a chunk of alloy to make the adapter or i will have to make do with steel ( wish i lived in melbourne).
So i hope by sunday it will be all most ready, Then comes the fuel pump setup ( Hope to have it started sometime next week will borrow a mates spare ea fuel tank for that ) :D Broom Broom.
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Post by Rangie Thing »

There is a clutch switch and a gearbox neutral switch ( don't know how i will get around that one yet.
Made the adapter plate and spacer plate just need to see the shops tomorrow to get some more bits.
I am thinking about not fitting the air temp sensor and just useing a trimpot setup.
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Post by Loanrangie »

Rangie Thing wrote:There is a clutch switch and a gearbox neutral switch ( don't know how i will get around that one yet.
Made the adapter plate and spacer plate just need to see the shops tomorrow to get some more bits.
I am thinking about not fitting the air temp sensor and just useing a trimpot setup.
I guess the auto nuetral switch is for starter lockout, but the clutch switch ? why not use the ford air temp sensor .
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Post by Rangie Thing »

The auto has a lockout switch that has a jumper added but the manual gearbox also has a neutral switch plus the clutch switch ( lots of switches )
As for the air temp sensor a mate of mine has a stuffed air temp sensor in his feroza so a trimpot was fitted, turning the pot back tricks the ecu that cooler air comming in so it puts more fuel in ( you can feel the extra go :D )
Here is the latest pic still need the throttle cable bracket work and idle motor ,wiring.
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Post by 460cixy »

so is it going yet?
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Post by Rangie Thing »

haven't spent much time with it of late too much on the go.

But so far all bolted on, acelarator cable on ( clip is the same as rangie ) if mine had a rangie cable in it.
will have the idle motor on tomorrow night, then its just the electrics to work on and the idle motor foot to make.
so hope to have it running by this weekend, i hope!!
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Post by Loanrangie »

Hey Rick, hows the efi going ?
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Post by Rangie Thing »

I have been slack very slack with rangie, bought a house so i have been distracted abit :D .
just need to do some more wiring and plumb in the fuel pump and things, should be running sunday or monday at the latest ( i hope) :D ( need it to move house).
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Post by Loanrangie »

I know what that is like, i have a 4.4, zf, winch waiting to go when i get the time.
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Post by Rangie Thing »

About time some one kicks my ass into gear!!! haven't looked at the rangie yet
This weekend i hope, It's so close i can taste it.
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Post by 460cixy »

pull ya finger out.
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Post by Rangie Thing »

will have the wiring done tonight and hope to have the fuel pump and bits done tomorrow.
I had a mate toe me to my new house last night so have shed, lights and action.
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Post by Rangie Thing »

One small setback all wired up fuel pump and bits plumbed up, turned the key lift pump on and fuel on floor.
As it happens the ford fuel pump has a small hole on the back near the pickup so any fuel in the pickup just runs out that small hole.
So it's back to the drawing board :bad-words:
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Post by Loanrangie »

Bugger, what type of pump is the ford - external/ internal ?
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Post by Rangie Thing »

pump is a in tank one, have gone to plan b have made a sleave that slide over pump and some hose, just need to fit a inlet tomorrow and i can fire it up (or will find the next hickup )
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