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Fellas, I know gas is fine and I know she's paranoid! When I said "if you ask 'why' then you can't be married", I meant that if you were married, you'd know it's pointless asking "why" because they never have a good reason other than "just because" .

As for buying her a golf, bugger off, this is my car!! She has the camry.

Thanks for the heads-ups on the Hilux Surf .. confirms my worries. Seems these are about the only thing that comes up on carsales etc when I search for diesel auto but I'll keep looking.

Discos might be worth a look.. first thoughts are that they're a bit big or (big-looking) and they're English... the only things the poms can usually be trusted with is warm beer and mushy peas. But I suppose the TDIs are volkswagen engine anyway right?

russell2pi wrote:

As for buying her a golf, bugger off, this is my car!! She has the camry.

Your car? I don't think so if she is still telling you what you can't have. Sounds like she's got you trained

cj wrote:

russell2pi wrote:

As for buying her a golf, bugger off, this is my car!! She has the camry.

Your car? I don't think so if she is still telling you what you can't have. Sounds like she's got you trained

Not so much trained as I know what the consequences are if i fail to obey But yes she sure does. "This is a family decision" blah blah blah gives me the shits. I love everything about married-with-kids life except that (and sleep deprivation).

HotFourOk wrote:
Not necessarily the injectors pumping more fuel in (its the same), but it requires more fuel to get to the same speed, and you put your foot down a lot more when they're cold to get them going.

Eg - A 50km/h hill near me I go up in 4th at half throttle normally... When I've just started the Rocky, I am in 3rd gear flat to the floor to keep at the speed... hence i will use more fuel.

Either way, you cant kill them

Ohh....you see i'm foot to the floor all the time, no matter how it's running... :(

I see your point though!

-Stu

Yea, If she doesnt want to go to gas, Then i guess you better let her go, you will find a women who appricates a gas 4x4, maybe

Getting closer now. The missus tried to walk to playgroup today and just about killed herself and the baby so now she's 100% behind getting a second vehicle . Plus, said she's happy for me to get a manual if an auto is too hard to find in what we want... so I recon dual cab lux with canopy here we come!!

P.S. Enough gas already I'm keen on trying biodiesel anyway. I make limited quantites of biogas myself but am yet to find a way to bottle it .

But I suppose the TDIs are volkswagen engine anyway right?

nope, Land Rover through and through. Thats why a '97-'98 was suggested, just when they sorted the bugs out (after BMW ownership) they changed the engine to the TD5....

About three years ago I had to go to Sydney for two weeks and had the Defender crew cab loaded up with work gear running around the outer western suburbs and it delivered 9.5l/100km. On the open road it's worse thanks to the lack of aerodynamics, muddies, sheer bloody size and weight, etc. but most Disco drivers I know easily achieve 10l/100km or better on a trip.

i have a 3b in my bj and get about 12-13L/100k. id like to think the factory turbo (13bt) gets better enconomy than that. its got p/s and had a/c but is a manual.. so with 4cyl rego + regular servicing + price of diesel* it all adds up in the end.

That bj74 posted on overlander is mint and you wouldnt be disappointed if you spent a little more for that.. but for your budget.. id suggest the following:
rangerover v8
dual fuel but pref striaght gas
probably find a auto no probs
comfy coils, i think the bj74 has leaf susp.
not so much maintenance required
bigger than a bj74 mwb inside and out

cons are v8 rego and insurance i guess but running costs should be a crapload cheaper than diesel in the long run...

anyway. thats just my 2c.. hope its some food for thought.

*commercial biodiesel only seems to be a few cents cheaper but there is the home grown alternative..

russell2pi wrote:Not so much trained as I know what the consequences are if i fail to obey

Classic.

Thanks all for the help. With that and now with the missus a bit more in check I've decided to get what I wanted all along, a diesel dual cab ute. Seeing this thread is all over the place due to my vague and changing requirements, I've started a new one now that I'm solid on what's wanted.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... 894#807894

About three years ago I had to go to Sydney for two weeks and had the Defender crew cab loaded up with work gear running around the outer western suburbs and it delivered 9.5l/100km. On the open road it's worse thanks to the lack of aerodynamics, muddies, sheer bloody size and weight, etc. but most Disco drivers I know easily achieve 10l/100km or better on a trip.

Why is it that Disco's get such good economy? They aren't light, or are they? What differences between a a disco and a hilux or landy make for such better consumption figures? Also, why do they sell so cheaply?

Maybe I should sell my surf and get one of these... The surf is so much prettier tho!