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"is less likely to lose traction on slightly slippery surfaces or when taking off hard in a corner"

I just don't understand why anyone would do this in an 80 series anyway

Hi all,

just a question, i have a 1990 80series gxl on lpg that has a bit of freeplay / backlash., would a Marks parttime kit solve this to a degree??

G

Pitto wrote:Hi all,

just a question, i have a 1990 80series gxl on lpg that has a bit of freeplay / backlash., would a Marks parttime kit solve this to a degree??

G

yep for sure...

i did the part time on mine for this reason.

i still had no manuel locking hubs on there but just the pt kit done in the t-case.
it deleted the catch up thing that they do...

(ps its even better when i fitted the manuel locking hubs..

yep for sure...

i did the part time on mine for this reason.

i still had no manuel locking hubs on there but just the pt kit done in the t-case.
it deleted the catch up thing that they do...

(ps its even better when i fitted the manuel locking hubs..

Thanks mate, Thats what i was chasing. i tend to "ease" out the clutch so the drivetrain loads up and avoids the "clunk".

my wife however drives it like its her old celica so the poor cruiser gets clunked about.

G

Hi Pitto,

I thought my wife was the only one that drives like that. Maybee there's something in common............

I did our 80 series as well. It reduced the clunking which my wife says she can't hear.........funny hey, cause I think she can hear me talking about her from the other end of the house......so I'd better shut up.

did our 80 series as well. It reduced the clunking which my wife says she can't hear.........funny hey, cause I think she can hear me talking about her from the other end of the house......so I'd better shut up.

must be a "Lady Driver" thing [got to be PC and all ] just need to convince her of the benefits of the kit.

The Marks adapters kit, is it just a matter of unbolting the cover off the transfer case and replacing the clutch, and also removing the fixed hubcaps [??] and bolting on freewheeling hubs?? can the job be done under the car or does the gearbox need to be pulled out?? just wondering what im up for. ive had the box out when i replaced the clutch,but it was a mission and a half when done at home with no hoist or gearbox lifter.

G

Pitto wrote:

did our 80 series as well. It reduced the clunking which my wife says she can't hear.........funny hey, cause I think she can hear me talking about her from the other end of the house......so I'd better shut up.

must be a "Lady Driver" thing [got to be PC and all ] just need to convince her of the benefits of the kit.

The Marks adapters kit, is it just a matter of unbolting the cover off the transfer case and replacing the clutch, and also removing the fixed hubcaps [??] and bolting on freewheeling hubs?? can the job be done under the car or does the gearbox need to be pulled out?? just wondering what im up for. ive had the box out when i replaced the clutch,but it was a mission and a half when done at home with no hoist or gearbox lifter.

G

can be done on the vehicle but it is a relatively simple matter to drop the transfer out and do the job on the bench - I changed transfer cases in my 80 last weekend and it took about 1.5 hours to do the whole job, drive in/drive out.

I did mine under the car.

Remove the rear tailshaft, remove the rear transfer cover, replace the relevent spider gears supplied, put back together and replace the front hubs which are also supplied.
I did mine several years ago but I think there is also a bearing you need to replace. Someone who did there's recently can confirm.

dumbdunce wrote:

Pitto wrote:

did our 80 series as well. It reduced the clunking which my wife says she can't hear.........funny hey, cause I think she can hear me talking about her from the other end of the house......so I'd better shut up.

must be a "Lady Driver" thing [got to be PC and all ] just need to convince her of the benefits of the kit.

The Marks adapters kit, is it just a matter of unbolting the cover off the transfer case and replacing the clutch, and also removing the fixed hubcaps [??] and bolting on freewheeling hubs?? can the job be done under the car or does the gearbox need to be pulled out?? just wondering what im up for. ive had the box out when i replaced the clutch,but it was a mission and a half when done at home with no hoist or gearbox lifter.

G

can be done on the vehicle but it is a relatively simple matter to drop the transfer out and do the job on the bench - I changed transfer cases in my 80 last weekend and it took about 1.5 hours to do the whole job, drive in/drive out.

Hi Dumbdunce

Can I bolt a non full time transfer to the back of my current gearbox? If so then if I add free wheeling hubs won;t this be a better option than a conversion kit?

Cheers
Simo

Simo63 wrote:
Hi Dumbdunce

Can I bolt a non full time transfer to the back of my current gearbox? If so then if I add free wheeling hubs won;t this be a better option than a conversion kit?

Cheers
Simo

yes you can. you will need the longer tailshaft off a part-time vehicle or have yours shortened. other than that is is much easier than a part time kit - no cracking boxes open.

Joombi wrote:"is less likely to lose traction on slightly slippery surfaces or when taking off hard in a corner"

I just don't understand why anyone would do this in an 80 series anyway

The main reason in fitting the part time kit is with a lift over 3 inches you get a vibration in the front tail shaft when doing speeds over 80km & the added benifets are more HP better fuel ecom & no wear and tear on the front end + I found it to steer better full time 4WD seem to get a bit of touqe steer.

Not that he needs it, but im going into bat with Brian....i have a turbo 4.5, and changed quick smart to part time after it lost steering with one front wheel spinning off the lights....on hard surfaces, constant is good, better than 2wd...again, on dirt, more sure footed, but if off road and in constant, you are worse off than a part timed cruiser, because if a soft spot orsimilar is encountered, you have 1 wheen drive as opposed to 1 and a bit with a lsd....
Most newer all wheel drives have a viscous centre diff to stop the one wheelers happening under power....why toyota why didnt you do that....imagine torque on demand to the axle with traction....Range yota:)

dow50r wrote:Not that he needs it, but im going into bat with Brian....i have a turbo 4.5, and changed quick smart to part time after it lost steering with one front wheel spinning off the lights....on hard surfaces, constant is good, better than 2wd...again, on dirt, more sure footed, but if off road and in constant, you are worse off than a part timed cruiser, because if a soft spot orsimilar is encountered, you have 1 wheen drive as opposed to 1 and a bit with a lsd....
Most newer all wheel drives have a viscous centre diff to stop the one wheelers happening under power....why toyota why didnt you do that....imagine torque on demand to the axle with traction....Range yota:)

My 40th anniversary 80 series has a viscous centre diff

There is only one thing to stop me doing this conversion....i love the look of my toyota hub covers, you know the ones with the circlie logo
love em, and with free wheeling hubs i cant have em

sniper wrote:There is only one thing to stop me doing this conversion....i love the look of my toyota hub covers, you know the ones with the circlie logo
love em, and with free wheeling hubs i cant have em

Your Grimace Ya should of bought a new Mercedes 4wd if ya worried about how ur axle covers look like

hey all, just to add to this thread

my father has a 91 VX 4.2td ltd and im talking to him about doing this conversion as he is wanting to put a locker in the front.

a: will the part time kit fit into these trucks the same as a normal 80 ?
b: is it just a case of poping the tail off the transfer and replacing the slip pack with parts supplied ?
c:is it really that mutch better on fuel ? what sort of gains can i expect him to get ?

im mostly concerned about the locker creating problems with steering on the road and giving the front end a hard time,all the time

cheers