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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 10:21 pm
by Screwy
ok cool, u guys have been heaps of help.
Im in the procees of doing the glowies and filters now.
The injectors have to wait a little till i have the dollars
cheers
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:04 pm
by berazafi
I am having similar probs but have some more questions
sd33t motor 315000 kms old (no blow By)
Car has not been reg for 3 years not sure if it has been driven much though
Engine is ok at start up
blow a little black smoke all the time
at full accelleration it pumps it out specialy at higher revs
new filters (exept fuel), new injectors
My questions could it be the fuel been in there for well no one knows
Oil change???
Could it be that screw on the side you talked about
anything else if you
ANYTHING ELSE>>??
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:54 am
by zen
rubbish...here is the cure for smoky (white unburnt derv) at start up.
new glow plugs or your checked.
leave them on longer before start up
AND ADVANCE PUMP TIMING ABIT!!!!!!
been there done it cured it..on lots of sd33's
oh check no water in fuel filter..
now very little/no smoke on -5c start ups,compared to wait for nobody around before starting!!
if it smokes white/blue when hot differnt story!!
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:11 am
by pongo
old thread but, I used to just hit the glow again till the idle flattens out whilst its running . Used to work well for me till i changed glow plugs
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:08 pm
by Brendan-s
i was under the impression that sd33 patrols came from the factory blowing too much smoke. certainly the case with the 2 i've had
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:57 pm
by Screwy
wat an old thread..... i hate desiels now
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:40 am
by Brendan-s
do you guys reckon its a natural progression? after the rear air locker, 2in lift and 33s, it'll go 36s and a front locker, SPOA and V8 eh?
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:29 pm
by smiley
V8Patrol wrote:White smoke is a sign of a cold motor= replace the glowplugs.
Black smoke is a sign of a rich mixture= not a major drama in a diesel
Blue smoke is from oil being burnt=replace either rings or get the valves lapped in (they may need "K liners" too) and new valvestem seals fitted.
If your worried about water in the tank .......flush it !!!!!!
tip....
drive it and get some pics of the smoke thats worring you, bit hard to judge from someones interpretations
Kingy
Well done V8Patrol, i was waiting for someone to give him this info set out in this way, it's nice to see that some people have the common sense to give advice in a simple non-confusing manner. However you have yourself a little mixed up.
BLACK SMOKE - is burnt OIL, not a fuel problem.
BLUE SMOKE - is rich Fuel mixture.
WHITE SMOKE - is a cold combustion burn, or an improper burn for some reason.
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:33 pm
by Screwy
disagree.
black smoke is too rich on fuel. full stop.
white is raw or left over fuel in the cylenders from cold motors or weeping injectors.
blue is burning oil.
V8PATROL is 100 percent spot on the mark.
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:33 pm
by Screwy
4130warrior wrote:do you guys reckon its a natural progression? after the rear air locker, 2in lift and 33s, it'll go 36s and a front locker, SPOA and V8 eh?
always the way.... either that or wat most ppl do is sell and buy GQ
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:03 pm
by damoj10
a good read thankyou, answered all my questions I hadnt been game to ask. cheers
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:20 pm
by smiley
Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:disagree.
black smoke is too rich on fuel. full stop.
white is raw or left over fuel in the cylenders from cold motors or weeping injectors.
blue is burning oil.
V8PATROL is 100 percent spot on the mark.
Yeah Sorry i had my info f*#!ed up, but it's still good to se people giving good simple advice
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:05 am
by V8Patrol
4130warrior wrote:do you guys reckon its a natural progression? after the rear air locker, 2in lift and 33s, it'll go 36s and a front locker, SPOA and V8 eh?
In one simple word ......... no !
The "natural progression" is to trade up as jeff stated so one theroetically should go from MQ to GQ to GU etc, but the costs involved in this constant chasing of the tail have some drawbacks which are counterd by "advanced modding" of the current ride.
Not everyone can afford a GU and even the humble GQ is out of some peoples price range but the old tried tested and proven MQ can be had for very few dollars and the mods can be done in a slow yet progressive manor to suit an individuals wallet.
On say a $5,000 budget you'd get a far more modified MQ compared to a GQ......... you obviously wouldnt be able to afford the GU at all on this sort of budget......
On a $10,000 budget youd have one awsome MQ and a reasonably modded GQ, the GU however..... well you might get a drivable unit but no mods as yet.
If $20,000 is available just imagine the MQ and what it would be capable of....
Obviously the GQ would be a awsome rig aswell and the GU would have some abilities to stay up there with the other two rigs but would still need more bucks spent on it
The other most important issue in my opinion is the relitave value of the thing compared to where or what you attempt to drive, I have absolutely no fear in thrashing my modded MQ through rough terrain, if it gets flopped ......... so what !
Take that attitude and apply it to someones pride and joy ..... shinny new paint without a dent of scratch and see if they realy want to follow you, the likelyhood is as I have seen on many occasaions is they chuck in a Uturn and exit the area to meet up later.
To me thats not fun nor is it challenging, sure its "nice" to have a smick new shinny rig with the latest electronic wizardry but if your too frighten to "drive it"
......
whats the point ?
Kingy
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:03 am
by Brendan-s
*chants*
V8Patrol for PM, V8 Patrol for PM!
spot on mate. my MQ owes me less than 4k and i can outdrive my old man's 80 series... although on cold mornings or highway runs i wish i had bought something with a 5spd and a little bit of comfort....
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:32 pm
by Screwy
4130warrior wrote:*chants*
V8Patrol for PM, V8 Patrol for PM!
spot on mate. my MQ owes me less than 4k and i can outdrive my old man's 80 series... although on cold mornings or highway runs i wish i had bought something with a 5spd and a little bit of comfort....
with mqs 600 and abit of playing around gets ya a 5speed
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:59 pm
by 60 zuk
dont all mq's blow smoke
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:38 pm
by Screwy
60 zuk wrote:dont all mq's blow smoke
not mine
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:01 am
by Brendan-s
Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:4130warrior wrote:*chants*
V8Patrol for PM, V8 Patrol for PM!
spot on mate. my MQ owes me less than 4k and i can outdrive my old man's 80 series... although on cold mornings or highway runs i wish i had bought something with a 5spd and a little bit of comfort....
with mqs 600 and abit of playing around gets ya a 5speed
that's the idea come tax time. that and hopefully a power steer setup as well
oh oh oh and a bright red paintjob, oh im getting to excited now i think i need a nap