Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Posted: **Tue Oct 07, 2003 1:08 pm**

Here is a pic in the early days with 33" BFG's, good tuff car, but we bought it rolled, Sandy fixed it, then 2 weeks after it was fixed truck ran into it and did $10,000 damage, fix it again (insurance), then I rolled it about 6 months later, didn't bother trying to buy it back off insurance and bought my first Mav with the payout, it was a bit of a jinx.

Posted: **Tue Oct 07, 2003 1:35 pm**

murcod wrote:QldGal there was a review on second hand Ferozas in 4WD Monthly about two issues back. (Just ignore the bit about being able to raise the IFS by 4" easily.... .... 2" is probably a bit more realistic!) They are built very tough, some of the other owners on here can testify to that.

I was looking at Ferozas and Vitaras, but found Feroza's were cheaper and better appointed for the money. Also, with Ferozas the fibreglass roof can be removed to make it a convertible without the worries of someone breaking in through a soft top.

As has already been mentioned aftermarket parts are virtually non existant in the way of lockers etc. Suspension lifts aren't a problem, it all depends on how much you want to mod it. Engine parts are available eg extractors.

Well apart from making sure it has the "basics" being spoties, bull bar, uhf radio and a nice set of mud tyres (just standard size) that is about all I will be doing to it. I am not going to be doing anything extreme I just want to be able to drive up hills with ease and do a few other moderate things.

Posted: **Tue Oct 07, 2003 1:46 pm**

SWB Pajero. It has size and space for camping gear, pretty good aftermarket support, no shortage of second hand parts (in comparison to a Bundera), ample engine power and efficiency, and they look modern.

Posted: **Tue Oct 07, 2003 1:57 pm**

shorty paj's are good.. except they are hard to come by and when they do pop up they are expensive. (assuming you don't want to deal with a carbie)
worth trying though!

Posted: **Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:06 pm**

You guys have been more than helpful it is great. I posted this same thing on another forum and got hardly any info. I will let you all know what I end up with, I will be reading 4wd monthly (they have done articles about both suz and dia) so I guess the big decision will be made after I test drive some over the weekend. I can't wait!!

Posted: **Tue Oct 07, 2003 9:47 pm**

robbie wrote:and if you're buying a bundy, dont rush into it as there are lots of shit ones out there..
look for rust in the rear guards, behind the bumper, in the rear windows, under the windscreen, in the door jams and on the firewall..

try get the LX model if you go for a bundy.. not much else I can think of, but happy hunting!

Especially those ones that have had the rear gaurds bashed in with a AXE!!!!! :finger:

Posted: **Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:45 pm**

yeah im late.

normally id say go with the coily sierra but in your case go the vitara.

Posted: **Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:22 pm**

POS wrote:
robbie wrote:and if you're buying a bundy, dont rush into it as there are lots of shit ones out there..

Especially those ones that have had the rear gaurds bashed in with a AXE!!!!!

bahahha

Posted: **Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:39 pm**

a bundy !!! :rofl:

there goes the "small 4wd" concept... look "QLDGAL" stuff em all up n buy a HUMMER and watch em a drooooooooooool

Posted: **Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:04 am**

V8Patrol wrote:a bundy !!! there goes the "small 4wd" concept... look "QLDGAL" stuff em all up n buy a HUMMER and watch em a drooooooooooool

Now there is a concept that works :lol:

Posted: **Wed Oct 08, 2003 10:59 am**

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Now there is a concept that works :lol:

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and after you get it pm me and we'll do a few mods ( highlift, loud n proud zorst, aggressive bullbar [predestrain frendily ofcourse!], driving lights everywhere, and a set of personalised number plates that says...."like I care" and then parking it, changing lanes, reversing, and all the other things a small 4x4 does so well wont be an issue at all !!!!!

Posted: **Wed Oct 08, 2003 11:16 am**

V8Patrol wrote:

Now there is a concept that works :lol:

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and after you get it pm me and we'll do a few mods ( highlift, loud n proud zorst, aggressive bullbar [predestrain frendily ofcourse!], driving lights everywhere, and a set of personalised number plates that says...."like I care" and then parking it, changing lanes, reversing, and all the other things a small 4x4 does so well wont be an issue at all !!!!!

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I like the idea of easy parking!

Posted: **Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:59 pm**

For Huge 4WD, i would take one of the new F250's over a Hummer anyday!!!!!

Posted: **Thu Oct 09, 2003 12:32 pm**

POS wrote:For Huge 4WD, i would take one of the new F250's over a Hummer anyday!!!!!

Well unless I win the lotto someday soon I will have to struggle with parking :cry:

Has anyone had much to do with Rocky's. I have just been having a look around in hte trading post, a 94 model diesel in their for just under $10000

Posted: **Thu Oct 09, 2003 12:53 pm**

There's a few Rocky owners in the Daihatsu section- try posting any questions there as they may not read this.

They're basically a bit bigger and tougher than the Feroza. Came out with a 2l petrol, 2.8l diesel and 2.8l diesel turbo. The turbo is of course the one to pick. I believe early models had solid front axle and later ones were IFS. The later models were also a wider track (much like the two versions of the Feroza.)

Posted: **Thu Oct 09, 2003 3:05 pm**

94 Rocky is just what I got and getting one for that price is good value.
Since Aug 93 Rocky came with only one spec (4 colours) .
2.8 Turbo Diesel intercooled (75Kw), Air, IFS and coil on the back.
Average fuel consumption is around 10l/100kms.

Let me know if you need any info .

Posted: **Thu Oct 09, 2003 3:36 pm**

Thanks for the info guys. This one was a red colour so it should go faster :lol:

Posted: **Thu Oct 09, 2003 3:45 pm**

THATS IT, I am painting the Rangie Red...........bound to add afew kilowatts..................

BRB

Posted: **Thu Oct 09, 2003 3:54 pm**

I thought the whole idea was to go slower :?:

Whatever you end up getting, post up pics!!

Posted: **Thu Oct 09, 2003 6:01 pm**

Saw a red bundy for $8000 ono over at Bracken Ridge.

For some reason Bundy's are much more expensive up here in Brissy, so I shoulda bought one in Melbourne before I moved if I wanted one.....

Posted: **Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:06 pm**

My old man had a ROCKY, brought it new and drove it everyday as a farm truck!

It was a solid front end and a very capable little machine!

He clocked up 490,000 km and was running strong until it was burnt down!

Lets put it this way it would have still been going if it wasn't for a short in the old (one of the first) engel fridge. :oops:

Posted: **Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:53 pm**

don't forget about the swb GQ patrols. Slightly more room, live axles, coil springs, strong, robust, spare parts readily available and lots of aftermarket stuff is available. There was one recently in the for sale section for a very reasonable price

Posted: **Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:29 am**

Bit late to have my say However, Feroza's are built much stronger than Zooks. I had a guy in a zook hit me in a minor bingle at Bondi. My repair costs were a bottle of cutting compound his Zook near a write off.

Just can't compare em for comfort on road, The Feroza's are capable of long road trips with relative comfort andd are fair in the bush with minor mods and can take a bit of bashing without to much damage.

However you can modify a zook so that it's the best off roader available.
Lets know what you end up with.

Posted: **Fri Oct 10, 2003 8:35 am**

yeh go the bundy!!!!

i paid 6500 for the one in the pics above (thankyou RUFF, its good to see someone actually looked at it)

Great ride for highway and off road.... coils, suspension seats.

Posted: **Fri Oct 10, 2003 8:42 am**

For some reason Bundy's are much more expensive up here in Brissy, so I shoulda bought one in Melbourne before I moved if I wanted one.....

yeh, that is right, and in worse condition..... I only found rusted out beat up crap in brissie, ended up buying mine from just over the border...

Also, if you are still watching for bundys, check out the roof sills for rust (alot that i saw had been bogged up something shocking....) cracks on door hinges as well.

you will find a good one out there though.

Posted: **Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:02 am**

Oh yeah, another advantage of the Feroza/ Rocky over a Suzuki : the Ferozas and Rockys come with 15x 6" wide rims standard so you can fit bigger, wider tyres on them. Vitaras only have 15x 5.5" wide rims standard (from what I've read) meaning you can't even fit a 235/75R15 on them. (Later model Vitaras have the 16" rim.)

By the way I'm not biased at all!

Ferozas also have galvanised body panels, which is why you won't see many with any rust. I'm not sure if the Rocky also does?

Posted: **Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:53 am**

You can fit Ford F100 rims on Rocky and the body is galvanised as it is with Feroza.

Posted: **Fri Oct 10, 2003 1:38 pm**

Galvanised is good. I went and saw about getting a rough quote for insurance on a feroza today....will only put my current insurance up by about $10 a month so I am happy!

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