what a shocka

[Fathillbilly]

there is another way and that is build the vehicle subject to all the current ADR's and the tests that are required for all new vehicles and register it as under a new name i.e. the hillbillybeast or what ever

but i dont know if you would want to drive it after it has been droped on its side, smashed into a croncrete slab, and had a chunk of concrete droped on its roof. The braking test and swerve test would be OK, but the rest ???????????

but you are talking about BIG $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to go down this road, unless you get someone like ADI to pay for it as a new vehicle for the military.

[Brad]

I think you will find that Low Volume Individually Constructed Vehicle are excempt from most of those tests. The need to get a torsion and beaming test and an emissions certificate and a few others. Then you need to have a disclaimer on the dash or somewhere visible stateing that the vehicle has not had impact testing conducted on it.

The other option would be to build a Hotrod 4x4, now those guys are a law unto themself, literally, have their own engineers, own rukes and even thier own mod code in the book, lucky buggers..

[RUFF]

An old glitch that I think has been clossed as BJ suggested was the fitting of Hilux Diffs to other vehicles. As they alwasy had leaf springs on top of the housing you were not modifying their position in relation to the housing so it was not illegal. I personally think you could still push this point if you really felt like doing it. Then your mod would be approved under suspension substitution which is another set of guidlines again.

This is the only option and yes it was not an option for a while but is again now an option. And if BJ listened a little more than he would know this

The only way to go SOA is to use an axle that came from factory in this configuration. Then it is classed as a Suspension Sub and Axle Sub. But you also then have a prob with Wheel Track.Which is a whole other story.

[V8Patrol]

The other option would be to build a Hotrod 4x4, now those guys are a law unto themself, literally, have their own engineers, own rukes and even thier own mod code in the book, lucky buggers..

Now there's food for thought....any one been down this road yet ????
join a hotrod club and "rod " it up !!!!

No such thing as imposibility...... only the minds inability to conceve the posibility

[Beastmavster]

I think you will find that Low Volume Individually Constructed Vehicle are excempt from most of those tests. The need to get a torsion and beaming test and an emissions certificate and a few others. Then you need to have a disclaimer on the dash or somewhere visible stateing that the vehicle has not had impact testing conducted on it.

Yeah except the costs of having it done are even higher, but in theory ANYTHING can get approved on such a vehicle if it's done in such a way that it doesn't breach the relevant ADR.

For instance working off a Suzuki Vitara Chassis it would be possible to have an individually constructed 2003 Model "Viagra MKI" with 36" tyres as stock.....

Speaking to a few engineers, the honest ones say there are some mods that they can put on your certificate, but it doesn't do anyone any favours. Sure if the cop pulls you over sees the cert he's gonna let you carry on, but if you have a prang and someone's badly hurt or killed and they're suss about your vehicle then the traffic incident squad can pull your car off the road to properly inspect it. If they find something that either is not on the cert, or is on the cert that shouldn't be it's their word that is final.

This gets real nasty when they decide that the vehicle is illegal and you knew it...... potential for instant culpability (much like drink driving even if the other person caused the accident) with the bonus of premediation to any death or injuries (you knew it was dangerous but didn't fix it).

Your insurance company will be able to find enough loopholes in such an event to hang you out to dry....

It's not enough to stop me going back to 29" rubber but it's potentially a very scary legal minefield. More research or reinterpretation of the rules may get me over the line for the tyres I wanna run, but maybe not.

I think a few people here have said it enough times.... Having an engineers cert and/or registration and/or insurance does not make a vehicle safe and legal.


If you go far enough from spec the only way to get the car truly "legal" is as a one-off vehicle or kit vehicle.

[Robbo]

Oh my god, fella's I am getting a head ache. Move to melbourne where nobody gives a shit or buy a GQ & save big $$$$$.

[bj on roids]

An old glitch that I think has been clossed as BJ suggested was the fitting of Hilux Diffs to other vehicles. As they alwasy had leaf springs on top of the housing you were not modifying their position in relation to the housing so it was not illegal. I personally think you could still push this point if you really felt like doing it. Then your mod would be approved under suspension substitution which is another set of guidlines again.

This is the only option and yes it was not an option for a while but is again now an option. And if BJ listened a little more than he would know this

The only way to go SOA is to use an axle that came from factory in this configuration. Then it is classed as a Suspension Sub and Axle Sub. But you also then have a prob with Wheel Track.Which is a whole other story.

that loophole has been closed, I will say it again.

[Wendle]

:D Oh my god, fella's I am getting a head ache. Move to melbourne where nobody gives a shit or buy a GQ & save big $$$$$.

and that will help, ya reckon??

[RUFF]

An old glitch that I think has been clossed as BJ suggested was the fitting of Hilux Diffs to other vehicles. As they alwasy had leaf springs on top of the housing you were not modifying their position in relation to the housing so it was not illegal. I personally think you could still push this point if you really felt like doing it. Then your mod would be approved under suspension substitution which is another set of guidlines again.

This is the only option and yes it was not an option for a while but is again now an option. And if BJ listened a little more than he would know this

The only way to go SOA is to use an axle that came from factory in this configuration. Then it is classed as a Suspension Sub and Axle Sub. But you also then have a prob with Wheel Track.Which is a whole other story.

that loophole has been closed, I will say it again.

And i can tell you again NO IT HAS NOT

[Strange Rover]

that loophole has been closed, I will say it again.

It was never a loophole and why do you say that it has been closed??

Sam

[bj on roids]

I had a facsimile form Qld Tpt, from 18 or 20 months ago, which denies my proposal for a SOA on F100 D44 axles, on the grounds that my vehicle did not come standard with a SOA! Even the diff sub is legal apparently if I swap to F100 diffs and go SUA!

[Robbo]

Bloody oath mate all they care about down here is that you speed lots so the gov has plenty of $$. I have a 5" lift & sometimes its small in comparison to others in the street. What are they gunna do take away your birthday![quote="Wendle"][quote="Robbo"]:D Oh my god, fella's I am getting a head ache. Move to melbourne where nobody gives a shit or buy a GQ & save big $$$$$. [/quote]

and that will help, ya reckon??[/quote]