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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:11 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
it is no where near going. Matt spoke to him today and he probably wont have it going for woodpecker either.
i am paired up with him for woodpecker at this stage
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:26 pm
by CHOPZUKI
well thats just gunna be f@#kin unfair isn it.everyone else might as well pull out and

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:34 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
yld04b wrote:well thats just gunna be f@#kin unfair isn it.everyone else might as well pull out and

The black one is my business partners, Matt.
This is my one
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:45 pm
by CHOPZUKI
nice! have you posted any info/pics of it on here?
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:46 pm
by CHOPZUKI
nice! have you posted any info/pics of it on here?
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:50 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:08 pm
by OVERKILL ENG
The AZTEC is still complete we have replaced all the bits that we have sold thanks to SEAN.My apprentice was building a buggy but was no where finished so we put all his bits onto the chassis so the buggy will still be able to compete.Diffs havn't been swapped yet.
SAM
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:09 pm
by moose
thats it !!!
im going back to my own planet !!!!!!

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:31 pm
by POS
moose wrote:thats it !!!
im going back to my own planet !!!!!!

mOoSe do you even know what your driving!!!!

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:45 pm
by RUFF
moose wrote:thats it !!!
im going back to my own planet !!!!!!

Do you even know where your own planet is?
Na Nu Na Nu

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 9:58 am
by ORSM45
moose wrote:OBC rig , Diesel Chev !!!
AH I SEE,

kinda makes more sense.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:01 am
by ORSM45
but he did say 1000hp, and id doubt a diesel of that size makes that much power.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:18 am
by OVERKILL ENG
ME ofcourse no just stirring. Based on results and usage you would have to say SAM'0 would have to have it. Bally and Cheezy's trucks havn't been driven or tested so its a bit hard to compare them.
SAM
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:31 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
i would have to say it is one of the 2 sams.
I think Sams mogrover goes so well in the hands of Sam and Tony as a team. They both know what it can and cant do and work perfectly together. Give a rig that is that wide and long to someone else and i think it would kill quite a few cones.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:41 pm
by 308LUX
im not realy qualified to comment as ive only seen vids on all but 1 of the mentioned rigs
but IMO id go with the mog rover
with sam's engineering skills and experience i think it would win hands down
it'll be very interesting to see how BJ's new rig will fare against the rest

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 9:05 pm
by Strange Rover
308LUX wrote:it'll be very interesting to see how BJ's new rig will fare against the rest

BJs rig will be interesting. It isnt necessarily ultimately capable (hasnt got massive flex or ground clearance or fancy hydraulics) but it is very light, has lots of horsepower, has really good gearing and a rear suspension that can handle a lot of wheelspin without getting up set. This all points to a rig that really likes the throttle - its an absolute blast to drive.
If I had to pick between my mogrover and BJs new rig as something that I would want to drive then ATM I would probably pick BJs new rig. Ultimately may not be as capable as my rig in a lot of our terrain but definately more fun and more capable in the sort of terrain that I want to see this sport moving towards. In the next 12 months there is going to more rigs like BJ's new rig - Im going to make sure of it.
BJs rig may just have a few strength issues but time will tell.
Speaking of strength does anybody have any idea how strong Dobbins cruza is. Ive only seen him crawl slowly around things - has anybody seen him really get into it with the throttle?? Just wondering because I never have (but I have only seen it a tuff truck in person and in a couple of vids).
Sam
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:07 pm
by Tojo
i have also noticed Dobbins slow driving technique. This is in contrast to some of the driving techniques from other cars i have seen on videos of competitions. I think it shows finese. It also shows the capabilities of the vehicle. Meaning he can drive very slowly and has no need for excess speed or momentum.
I was allways taught that in 4wding the object was to drive as slow and smooth as possible with the minimal amount of wheelspin. I guess it is just a different philosophy. Mind you, the cars that charge obstacles and spin and bounce do look spectacular. Generally speaking the slower and smoother you are the less chance of breaking things.
It sure would be good to see all the cars mentioned head to head in a few different competitions with a variety of terrain.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:33 am
by Wendle
Strange Rover wrote:Speaking of strength does anybody have any idea how strong Dobbins cruza is. Ive only seen him crawl slowly around things - has anybody seen him really get into it with the throttle?? Just wondering because I never have (but I have only seen it a tuff truck in person and in a couple of vids).
Sam
If you work on the theory that something is only as strong as its weakest part, and add the maths of everything before the portals having its working load reduced by 2.xx or whatever he runs, it would have to be bloody strong. The weakest part could maybe either be the portal's stub shafts or gearsets or maybe some component of the 9"centre/axles?? The blokes fabrication is nothing short of top notch, so I can't imagine anything in the chassis/suspension being less than suitable for major misuse...
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:34 pm
by POS
Tojo wrote:i have also noticed Dobbins slow driving technique. This is in contrast to some of the driving techniques from other cars i have seen on videos of competitions. I think it shows finese. It also shows the capabilities of the vehicle. Meaning he can drive very slowly and has no need for excess speed or momentum.
I was allways taught that in 4wding the object was to drive as slow and smooth as possible with the minimal amount of wheelspin. I guess it is just a different philosophy. Mind you, the cars that charge obstacles and spin and bounce do look spectacular. Generally speaking the slower and smoother you are the less chance of breaking things.
It sure would be good to see all the cars mentioned head to head in a few different competitions with a variety of terrain.
Yes we were all taught that 4WDing slow is the best way!!!!
But you need to adapt to the terrain!
Have a look at the american rock crawling comps and then tell me how slow and steady works!
I am yet to see someone CRAWL a near Vertical wall
Also at XRCC round 2 i don't think the Mogrover got above 1500rpm
Yes its one thing to CRAWL but what happens when the have to GET IT!!!!
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:56 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
Adrian,
Do your hampsters get it?
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:00 pm
by POS
mickbj42 wrote:Adrian,
Do your hampsters get it?
Fark NO!!!
However there will be 4 MORE beside them soon, then it will!!!!!
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:06 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
wow! dual engined lux!! Are you going to join the hampster wheels with a belt, chain or gears?
You need a big block zook, 1600cc's of pure grunt!

They rev past 7000rpm though!
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 10:15 pm
by hypo
i voted 4 the mog rover coz i have seen all these rigs in a variety of terrains and the rover can crawl stuff wen it needs 2 but wen it approches a vertical ledge that cant b crawled slowly, the mog gets a bootful of loud pedal and gets it really well..
in my eyes i believe that it is the most capable ATM......
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 4:22 pm
by tomota
how about some photos of the rigs?
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 4:44 pm
by robbie
tomota wrote:how about some photos of the rigs?
most of them are on this site.. do a search for them
cheers
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 5:51 pm
by BeZeRK
speaking of the weakest part, did i not read that dobins is running 100 series CV joints on his tailshafts? ill try and find where i read it.
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:32 pm
by Dozoor
I voted for the SK.s Aztek , As long as he keeps the zook bonnet
How could i not he.s a Local !
Just as a matter of interest
I seen pics of glens toy in a woodpecker , What sort of record have these blokes got ,
Glen D , 1 TTC
PETE A , I've seen him win quiet a few , allterians ect, I would say this one is the most consistent over the years, Maybe not for the fact of winning events but for competing in heaps winning and placing in a lot.
Cristie bros , I think maybe the siemens bros have done better then them.
sams mog Is winning the xrcc's and whooping some butt ,
I Hope The entrant list for the pecker comes good' Cause I can't wait.
Be good to have a little look around for all the results for a year and see who got the best placings , Be interesting in the least
