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WE Rock - Finals - Milbrodale NSW 19/20 November

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Post by alexcliffo »

Just have to say what an absolutely tops weekend it was. I cant beleive there werent more spectators. Congrats to the winners and all competitors. The Seppos were top fun, and I hope they had enough fun to come back at some stage. A truly international competition ina few years would be unfarkinreal..

To Adrian I dont know if u remember me, but i offered you a case of Turkey if you completed A5 Bonus. You got the crowd involved, and you gave it a go, , and its great to see drivers like you who get as much out of crowd entertainment as points on the board. Inspirational stuff for me. ill introduce myself next time with a couple of cans for you.

Well done to the ladies, you drive better than the blokes i reckon, drove with more, well.... balls i s'pose ;) ;)

To Gonads and Ruff, your top drivers with trick rigs, but hurry up and build some kick ass buggys.

Just a thought, it may be aiming high, but to market this sport an idea would be to contact the CHannel 7 Sunrise program. They do throws to interesting and different events during their weather segment, (eg to Crusty Demons shows and camping and caravan shows). Grant Denure the weather guy is a bit of a petrol head and seems to do lots of motor events. Send them a demo tape and some info... Its worth a try.. They could do weather the fri B4 the event- get hepas of exposure.

This will be huge in a couple of years, with so many rigs in the making :!: :!:

Oh yeah, the slide show was a awesome touch too.

Finally, big ups for the organisers and volunteers, espec. Sam O and others behind the scene, who as usual was scooting around like a blue assed fly. There are lots out there who appreciate what you do. :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: to you..
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alexcliffo wrote:To Adrian I dont know if u remember me, but i offered you a case of Turkey if you completed A5 Bonus. You got the crowd involved, and you gave it a go, , and its great to see drivers like you who get as much out of crowd entertainment as points on the board. Inspirational stuff for me. ill introduce myself next time with a couple of cans for you.



Hell yeah i remember you guys ( i am surprised you can remember me, you guys looked like you were having a blast :lol: :lol: :) ). I love it when the crowd appriciates what i have just put the buggy threw. Make sure at the next event you (and the lads) come over and say Hi, i would love to have a few drinks with ya's. Make sure you do, often people say they will come up and say hi but they never do, i may be busy but i can always find time to chill out and have a few beers in the arvo.

I was totally bummed that my rig broke sunday arvo as i was looking forward to attempting the other 20 point bonus line on A5. :shock: Now that one would have been a real test. But would have been hell cool to watch!

See you (and the lads) at WEROCK Rd 1.
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Post by antt »

least noone had to see ya naked adrian ;) :finger:
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Post by bad_religion_au »

POS wrote:. Make sure at the next event you (and the lads) come over and say Hi, i would love to have a few drinks with ya's. Make sure you do, often people say they will come up and say hi but they never do, i may be busy but i can always find time to chill out and have a few beers in the arvo.



adrian, i know you told 45punkbus to come see ya, and i was pushin him to do it... to his defense though, we couldn't find ya saturday night or sunday arvo..... and you looked pissed off when we saw you sunday.
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bad_religion_au wrote:
adrian, i know you told 45punkbus to come see ya, and i was pushin him to do it... to his defense though, we couldn't find ya saturday night or sunday arvo..... and you looked pissed off when we saw you sunday.



:lol: :lol: Thats cool, hey even if i looked pissed off it probably would have lasted all of about 30 seconds. I get peeved when i break shiat or can't pull off a certain move, but i get over it pretty quick. :lol:
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-Mandy- wrote:Big congrats to Becca and Dustin, 2 of the nicest ppl i have met so far,Well done on your top effort :armsup: :P

Haven't seen it mentioned yet but once again a huge :armsup: to Rod for fixing the buggies on Thursday arvo (when we got there 3 or so were already broken from 'test' wheelin :P ). If we hadn't of turned up until Saturday morning, there would of been a few less competing vehicles for some time after the comp started. :cool:

Congrats to Sam for all the effort gone into WE ROCK this year :P :D


It's always the quiet achivers that help make the events what they are, hopefully next year Rod will get to drive his rig and show them all how it's done :roll: what about the score keepers and Lil Rich help us look at an all new level for next year.
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Make sure at the next event you (and the lads) come over and say Hi, i would love to have a few drinks with ya's. Make sure you do, often people say they will come up and say hi but they never do, i may be busy but i can always find time to chill out and have a few beers in the arvo.


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Post by Gordo »

We should enjoy this top event while it's still somewhat underground.

Gotta say I was rapt to be able to see buggies do their shit up close without having rum spilt on you whilst be onscured by flotillas of yobbos (ala TTC) is a pretty cool thing.
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Post by 45punkbus »

id have to agree with that, i love the event size the way it is, you get a better perspective of it :armsup: . but after saying that i still want the sport to grow bigger :armsup: :armsup:
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Post by Daisy »

Hey there

Bloody awesome event... had a friggin great time!!!!!

Many thanks to dave (beebee) for spottin for me... he's a real pro at his stuff and i had a blast!!!

Becca... u drove bloody well all weekend you sure showed us aussies!!!!

Thanks to all the judges who helped out over the weekend and they did a fantastic job and I hope they enjoyed the judges cup. They all did well (had to help a bit :D :D)

The driving style of the americans sure taught me a lot... like reversing into gates which was something different.

And thanks to Mick (mogrover recovery driver) for helping me straighten my diff after lil tom bent it like a banana!!! a day before the competition started!!!!

Thanks to Sam (strangerover) for organising a bloody awesome event!!!!!

Also to Jamie (not 2.8) and Steve for following me back home to make sure i got home safe...

Bring on the next event!!!!

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Well done to Becca and Dustin, Dustrin had that rig under control the whole time via Becca. :D Dustin is such a nice person to chat to as well.

My observations for a buggy would be
1 Must be able to turn ( rear steer a big help)
2 Low CG to help on the crazy angles.
3 Strongly built to sustain huge rolls or falls from at least 6m heights.

Traction and climbing did not appear to be a problem with the buggys if they could get a wheel on the obsticle they could climb it.
Turning and side angles were the real challenge to the buggys. Remember reversing is a penalty.

Great to see ALL the new buggys there for their first comp and some will be real contenders at the next events.

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Post by Bentzook »

peter antunac is going to clean up with that machine next year.




Only if his spotter cleans up his act, several times they were in disagreement, the spotters got to make the call, almost before it happens.
Dustin and Becca are the best example of this.

Both instances on the same track where he didnt know what to do
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Post by Bentzook »

And the Bonus point where was hanging out to dry
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Bentzook wrote:And the Bonus point where was hanging out to dry


WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND!!!!!!!!!!!

MASSIVE CONGRATS TO SAM OVERTON......... WELL DONE......

THIS WAS THE BEST 4X4 SPECTACLE EVENT THAT I HAVE EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN, & COMPETED IN BY FAR............ I REALLY ENJOYED THE DESIGN OF THE COURSES AND JUST THE ENTIRE ATMOSPHERE WAS TOP NOTCH.

MY ONLY PROBLEM OR HATE IS THE FACT THAT I HAVE TO WAIT MORE THAN 1 MONTH TO DO IT ALL AGAIN.

SO__ COME-ON BRING ON WE-ROCK CHRISTMAS SPECIAL EDITION-
SAY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 25TH & THE 31ST OF DECEMBER. THAT WOULD BE COOL.


CONGRATS TO ALL COMPETITORS FOR STEPING UP FOR THIS EVENT
IT DEFINATELY WAS FAR MORE PROFESSIONAL.

ALSO TO THE JUDGES, GREAT JOB ALL WEEKEND, ITS GREAT TO HAVE A FEW LAUGHS BEFORE & AFTER EACH STAGE WITH YOU GUYS, MAKE SURE YOU ARE ALL AT THE NEXT EVENT.

AS FOR MY TRANSMISSION REBUILDER. HE CAN BLOW IT RIGHT OUT HIS KLOWACKA. WHAT A DISSAPPOINTMENT FOR US TO GO TO ALL THE EFFORT TO GET THE BUGGY RUNNING ONLY TO FIND OUT ON OUR 3.30am SATURDAY MORNING TEST DRIVE THAT WE HAD NO REVERSE...... WHAT A F**K

HUGE THANKS TO SAM KECK FROM OVERKILL. HE SPENT ENDLESS HOURS WITH ME & WITHOUT ME IN PREPERATION FOR THIS EVENT.

ALSO TO GLEN DOBBIN, THIS BUGGY HAS BEEN IN THE PIPELINE FOR SOME TIME NOW. THANKS FOR ALL OF THE LAST MINUTE ASSISTANCE.

OUT OF TIME, I'LL BE BACK......

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OFFROADPERFORMANCEW/HOUSE wrote:
Bentzook wrote:And the Bonus point where was hanging out to dry


WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND!!!!!!!!!!!

MASSIVE CONGRATS TO SAM OVERTON......... WELL DONE......

THIS WAS THE BEST 4X4 SPECTACLE EVENT THAT I HAVE EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN, & COMPETED IN BY FAR............ I REALLY ENJOYED THE DESIGN OF THE COURSES AND JUST THE ENTIRE ATMOSPHERE WAS TOP NOTCH.

MY ONLY PROBLEM OR HATE IS THE FACT THAT I HAVE TO WAIT MORE THAN 1 MONTH TO DO IT ALL AGAIN.

SO__ COME-ON BRING ON WE-ROCK CHRISTMAS SPECIAL EDITION-
SAY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 25TH & THE 31ST OF DECEMBER. THAT WOULD BE COOL.


CONGRATS TO ALL COMPETITORS FOR STEPING UP FOR THIS EVENT
IT DEFINATELY WAS FAR MORE PROFESSIONAL.

ALSO TO THE JUDGES, GREAT JOB ALL WEEKEND, ITS GREAT TO HAVE A FEW LAUGHS BEFORE & AFTER EACH STAGE WITH YOU GUYS, MAKE SURE YOU ARE ALL AT THE NEXT EVENT.

AS FOR MY TRANSMISSION REBUILDER. HE CAN BLOW IT RIGHT OUT HIS KLOWACKA. WHAT A DISSAPPOINTMENT FOR US TO GO TO ALL THE EFFORT TO GET THE BUGGY RUNNING ONLY TO FIND OUT ON OUR 3.30am SATURDAY MORNING TEST DRIVE THAT WE HAD NO REVERSE...... WHAT A F**K

HUGE THANKS TO SAM KECK FROM OVERKILL. HE SPENT ENDLESS HOURS WITH ME & WITHOUT ME IN PREPERATION FOR THIS EVENT.

ALSO TO GLEN DOBBIN, THIS BUGGY HAS BEEN IN THE PIPELINE FOR SOME TIME NOW. THANKS FOR ALL OF THE LAST MINUTE ASSISTANCE.

OUT OF TIME, I'LL BE BACK......

PETE ANTUNAC


yOU LEFT THE CAPS LOCK ON pETE!

I personally think Tazz did a great job on the weekend, as a team, you need to give Tazz more practice as a spotter, cause all he is used to is sitting in the passenger seat of the cruiser enjoying the ride. :finger:

We are now tyring to plan our live around WE Rock 2006, so when is the first comp likely to be?

Hey Pete, why don't you organise a xmas buggy comp somewhere close to Sydney?
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thread jack !!!

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Post by DIRTY ROCK STAR »

yeah i reckon tazz does a good job!
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Post by Surfection »

roc70y wrote:We are now tyring to plan our live around WE Rock 2006, so when is the first comp likely to be?



Ditto, any ideas on dates yet ?

BTW, Chris and Ally, you guys were great and are going to be a pleasure to watch (and beat) next year !! :P
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Post by Roctoy »

DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote:yeah i reckon tazz does a good job!

for a bloodnut :finger:


Surfection wrote:BTW, Chris and Ally, you guys were great and are going to be a pleasure to watch (and beat) next year !! :P



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Post by Red Bull RockIt »

Wow...what can we say but a simple word...THANKS. Sam, Adrian, Tony, Tom, Rod and anyone else that helped to make our trip possible...THANKS!

I could just cut and paste my story from Pirate but that wouldn't do any justice...you blokes already know what happened and I'd rather just tell you the important stuff.

First, I think many of the teams underestimated themselves. I heard many teams ready to pack it in after seeing the courses on Friday, thinking there was no way they could complete them. I just kept smiling as I knew you'd find yourselves second guessing the obstacle as you strted in and then finding yourself over the hard part before you knew it. Though quite a few of the teams didn't complete many of the courses, you can see that they still were able to complete the hard part and just didn't have enough time to get through the technical stuff after. That is a sign that your teams are ready for the bigger stuff and it won't be long before you're looking at those courses through the same eyes we were. I also see a few comments that the spotters were not all up to the task but I'll put in the biggest defense that if you haven't seen these types of courses done again and again, it makes it tougher to spot than drive as much of the pressure is on you. Advice to all of the spotters is to focus a little, no a TON more time on figuring out how you will stack each obstacle. I walked every course and looked for each rock making mental notes of the shape/size/location of what would do the trick. If I needed something I couldn't find in the immediate course area, I'd walk the brush until I found what I needed, then before starting the course, asked the crowd in that area to be ready to make room for me hauling ass to and from where it is. Also a spotter error that I saw over and over was watching the rig from too close. Back up and stand BEHIND the crawler on climbs and you can see where the problems are. If the front jumps left on the climb, look at the left rear tire...I bet there's a hole there that needs to be filled. Watch each crawler before you looking for the reason they are failing or succeeding and try to figure out what will get your crawler through. Finally, look for the not-so-obvious areas to have the crawler leave the direct line of the course to re-enter on a better angle. If you saw us on A-1 near the end on Saturday, we crawled straight over the second rock where everyone turned, went out into that huge field, did a 180 front burn turn and came back on the exact line we wanted to without getting any backup points or risking a roll trying to turn to drop off into that huge hole. It cost us a couple hundred meters but when moving fast, that took less time than trying to turn around on that rock. These ideas are obviously new to you as your courses are not normally that wide open, but I'm sure you'll find them if you just start looking. A good spotter is far more than just a person that moves rocks and pulls on a rope. I promise that even with the couple of negative comments I heard here, the spotters in OZ are doing just fine. We have the exact same issues here and it's clear that when there's a communication issue, it's not always the spotter's fault. The most consistant team on the planet (Jason Paulie and Travis Wadeson) don't use ropes and rocks to do so well, they use strategy and communication that is unmatched.
One warning to the spotters...your pulling on the rope from the direction the crawlers were full throttle while stuck on the A-1 bonus was reckless...that was you life about to end. Quit being reckless and stupid...it's just not worth your life and you stood a chance of losing it...you can argue and say you were enough off to the side, but I PROMISE you were not...full throttle with the wheels turning left to right, you never know when a buggy will hook up and head off sideways taking you with it.

On to the people:

Gonads, NEVER FAWKING CHANGE!

Daisy, you're the shit.

Adrian (is that how it's spelled?), it just wasn't your weekend to win...all the Americans saw that you easilly could have, keep up the great work.

The two new portal buggies, kickass jobs on your designs...I look forward to seeing a couple of wins outta each of you once you get the bugs worked out.

Tony, aka Todd (sorry) - I said it over and over, there's a reason you're pulling off so much cool stuff. Your a patient and smart driver.

Shit, I'm embarrassed but I forgot the names of the guys in the purple and orange buggy running next to us. Why are you competing there??? You should be here! Your crawling technique that weekend was as good as any in the US. You're in a big and heavy rig and that is a big disadvantage to you, yet you crawled stuff so damn well that I couldn't help but want to watch every run you made...Nice work!

The orange Sami (kindof) on the Fawkin HUGE tires running next to us on day one also did an amazing job of holding their own. I was bummed not to see them kicking ass on Sunday as watching them told me there was some real talent waiting in the wings...nice wheelin guys!

I'm bummed I didn't get to see much more, but for me, I was damn busy keeping track of myself and the courses we were facing. The Aussie teams were definitly the highlight for us and all of your friendship and fun made our trip perfect. The win was just the icing on an already perfect cake and we owe all of the fans, volunteers, judges, recovery, officials, teams, Howard Pearl, and especially Sam and Lil Rich a HUGE thanks for our most memorable weekend of wheeling ever!

Finally, a big thanks goes out to the people that supported our team and the other teams as well.
Pro Comp Tires - It's clear who had the advantage this weekend. If anyone has the idea that they are not an amazing tire, than you've just sold out to marketing and opinions of people who don't know shit about tires. Pro Comp took us seriously when designing the X-Terrains and they are AWESOME tires.
Pro Comp Wheels - Obviously, the two most blingin rigs out there were boosted by the look and performance of the rims. We use their rims in all of our beadlocks because they have a better safety bead area than most other rims.
Staun inner beadlocks - With the Pro Comp tires, I can't say that we needed them as the beads on the pro comps are like no other. They are a far tighter tolerance and design than anything else out there. Still, the Stauns gave us extra confidence that if the unexpected were to happen, we'd have a solution. That's the first time we've ever run them, but we wouldn't hesitate to use them again...for anyone with a tire other than a Pro Comp, I'd highly recommend it!
Sway A Way - Their air shocks give you a big advantage over the other brands that are so highly marketed...don't give in to the hype of marketing. The Sway A Ways have a larger piston allowing lower pressures and a far better spring rate curve. They also use a large return spring that actually counters the top-end unloading that rolls so many rigs. These two features make the Sway A Way FAR more predictable and the added finish work on the shock that stays nice looking for years is just an added bonus.
PolyPerformance - We get all of our suspension components from them, including heims, links, tabs, as well as our custom drive flanges. I know you guys have suppliers over there for that stuff but realise we were running the PolyPerformance high strength birfields in the front end over there. Considering we are used to running CTM Jack's 300m 35 spline axles and joints, we should have been crushing the birfields...we were not. If you're ready to upgrade, look for the PolyPerformance one's first. If you knew Dave (PIG) and Drew (goat1), you'd understand why I say this. They are both Cal Poly Tech grads that know their shit when it comes to engineering far better than most. Drew designs for more suspension companies (on a contract basis) than you could ever imagine and has a ton to do with the success of many well known desert race teams. Dave is simply the shit when it comes to hands-on design and tuning. There is a reason we go to them when we need something done right.
RP Films and www.haulinorcrawlin.com - Obviously, they put us on film in the coolest flics in our sport. We appreciate them so much for promoting our sport in a way that is appealing to EVERYONE!
Pirate4x4.com - :D gotta love that fawking place!
Outerlimits4x4.com - Same thing...great forum with a ton of great people on-board.
All of the media attending the event...keep coming, it's only going to get better and you'll only grow your readership and advertisers if you continue to devote time and pages to RockCrawling. We ppreciate you being there and look forward to seeing the articles you come up with. Can't wait to see how it all looks 16 months from now!

I know it's way down here at the bottom but sometimes you save the biggie for last...I'll thank Mickey Thompson for coming through with a title sponsorship of WE Rock Australia. Looking at SkyJacker and GoodYear here in the US, they were the first to jump on as title sponsors of events and they couldn't have made a better decision as it put them on top of the pile of known brands in the offroad world. It's a two way street - We need you, you need us...thanks for recognising that and I hope you are able to step it up for 2006 as it's clear how well the sport is going to do...with a marquee as known as you are, it'll be an opportunity that is worth investing in! Thanks for being there.
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Post by UZJ40 »

well said Dustin, was a bit of a mouthfull, i must say that i really did learn a heap by wathcing you guys work, i did learn how important a good spoter/navy is.

i was a judge on stage 5, and i cant belive that no matter how busy or preoccupied you guys were, you where happy to spend time talking to us and answering questions, and that goes to all the US and aus teams.

cant wait to see you all back here in 2007.
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awesome speil there Dustin ... your professionalism shines through and makes you a great ambassador for the sport :armsup:
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Post by Midget »

Ok better late than never...

A huge thanks to Sam and his team of trusty troops that put together another fantastic event. (The best i have been to.)

A huge :armsup: to Lil rich for designing some of the best courses i have seen and wheeled on...I truley beleave this has raised the bar for the future comps..

I must say it was a honour to see the teams come all the way from the US to wheel with us,Especially Dustin & Becca Webster...You guys ROCK....

I learnt so much from watching the different ways you guys tackled each course.

I must also give a huge thanks to my Spotter James, Mate without you there,I would have been totally lost....
& to my dad,thanks for all support and help in rebuilding the buggy and pit crewing on the weekend...

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Already have plans underway for a totally revised buggy for next year...
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Red Bull RockIt wrote:Finally, look for the not-so-obvious areas to have the crawler leave the direct line of the course to re-enter on a better angle. If you saw us on A-1 near the end on Saturday, we crawled straight over the second rock where everyone turned, went out into that huge field, did a 180 front burn turn and came back on the exact line we wanted to without getting any backup points or risking a roll trying to turn to drop off into that huge hole. It cost us a couple hundred meters but when moving fast, that took less time than trying to turn around on that rock. These ideas are obviously new to you as your courses are not normally that wide open, but I'm sure you'll find them if you just start looking.


one comment i'd like to make on this one... you guys got away with it, but when the "orange sami thing with big wheels (aka gonad's ex zook, bigzooks new ride)" tried it, the judges called their run over... stating that they were disqualified from the course... by the time this was corrected, and the driver informed (if he heard it) he'd left and tried to please the crowd by attempting A1 bonus line and breaking... fair enough the judges can't be perfect, but calls like that discourage people to think outside the square... a trait that dustin and becca have mastered (and made watching them so worthwhile... along with the fact that becca had more balls than ANY driver there)...

as for the standing in front of the rig on the spotters strap. i agree 100% with dustin here, and thought it was funny that Tazz got a warning for touching the rig while trying to lever antunec of that bonus ridge on stage 1, but the judges were happy to let him pull on the spotters strap from the front of a rig sitting on redline... i thought that was stupid too.
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Post by Strange Rover »

Well - I actually glad that this year is over. It really was a lot of work for us guys here at Haultech but I think with what we have achieved this year it has made it all worthwile.

I really big thanks to all those that have supported us this year and i sincearly mean this. Im really trying hard to reward everybody that is putting effort into this series, from the judges to the recovery crew to the scorers to the sponsors to the competitors to the crowds and to everybody else that makes these events possible.

Im almost embarased about how much time and money we have put into this but i think its going to work out. Next year we send rigs to the world championships and the year after that the world championships are in Australia.

The WE Rock Finals this year have really stepped things up for us. We took a big gamble with all the US involvement at this event and it came off very well. We now have lots of new media interest and a number of keen sponsors that want to come on board with us. With all the new competitors and buggies that are/have been built next year is looking very good.

So to next year.....

As I promised at the start of this year we will be sending teams from Australia to the US to compete in the world championships. At the very least we will be sending the vehicles (2 unlimiteds and 2 promodifieds) but Im am hoping we can raise enough money to send the people as well.

The world championships will be held in Vegas just after Sema on the 4/5 November 2006. Now to allow for getting the rigs packed up and shipped we will need to have our season finished by the end of August (allow 8 weeks between our finals and the world championships). Now Carly and I are expecting the birth of our second child on the 2nd of February so this means that the first event we can run would be early March.

So we have March, April, May, June, July, August (6 months) to run all our events. I think we will do between 4 and 6 events so that works out to be an event every 4 to 6 weeks. So its going to be fairly flat out season but i think we can make it work.

Other option is to run the first event in the middle of Janurary and then do March etc but I dont know if everybody will be ready for a January start.

So, this is it - time to get very serious cause the top 2 Promodifieds and top 2 Unlimiteds get to go the the US for the World Championships and this is happening next year.

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Post by crokie83 »

bad_religion_au wrote:
one comment i'd like to make on this one... you guys got away with it, but when the "orange sami thing with big wheels (aka gonad's ex zook, bigzooks new ride)" tried it, the judges called their run over... stating that they were disqualified from the course... by the time this was corrected, and the driver informed (if he heard it) he'd left and tried to please the crowd by attempting A1 bonus line and breaking


ok i was judging on course a1 and the reason why we disqualified athol was he had passed through the next gate which in the rules it states

WE ROCK RULES wrote:any vehicle by-passing a gate intentionally or not will be declared "out of bounds" and will receive40 points for that obstacle. the team does not have the option of taking a back up and re-trying the gate





bad_religion_au wrote:as for the standing in front of the rig on the spotters strap. i agree 100% with dustin here, and thought it was funny that Tazz got a warning for touching the rig while trying to lever antunec of that bonus ridge on stage 1, but the judges were happy to let him pull on the spotters strap from the front of a rig sitting on redline... i thought that was stupid too.


we as judges have the right but not the responsibility to advise spotters and drivers of unsafe acts. now I sure as shit wasn't about to walk in front of pete when he was going at full noise, and tell tazz to think about where he was standing.

all of us judges are volunteers and are still learning
i didn't see you volunteer, but you are happy to bitch about how this and should have been done.
perhaps you should give it a go and you would see it's not as easy as you think :roll:
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Post by Red Bull RockIt »

bad_religion_au wrote:one comment i'd like to make on this one... you guys got away with it, but when the "orange sami thing with big wheels (aka gonad's ex zook, bigzooks new ride)" tried it, the judges called their run over... stating that they were disqualified from the course...

I heard they passed "THROUGH" the end gate to get to the field which is illegal. We went to the left of the end gates in the narrow path "AROUND" that gate, then re-entered in the same spot as it is allowed in the rules.
That was the difference and is something that you'll guys figure out as you learn to do what we call "scrub" the rules, looking for what is ok and what is not.
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Post by Surfection »

March sounds good Sam !!!!!!! :armsup: :armsup: :armsup:
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Post by Bentzook »

I also see a few comments that the spotters were not all up to the task but I'll put in the biggest defense that if you haven't seen these types of courses done again and again, it makes it tougher to spot than drive as much of the pressure is on you.


I only say it for their benefit. They need to smarten their strategies up. Ive seen spotters get :splat: run over :splat: when the crawler bites in for traction, and :splat: squashed :splat: flesh doesnt make the best of sounds, you fell quite sick actually.
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