Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Was just talking to Yoshio Kanako in Tokyo Japan - he's an engineer for toyota. The problem he thinks is that you're using your 4wd off road.

They were not intended for this.

Stop using it offroad and you'll be right. Stick to web wheeling! PS he says you've voided your warranty

Z()LTAN wrote:yeah, the custom mounts would be your best bet mate

dude

custom mounts are no good, you need to fit engine mounts off a 14litre cummins. Thats the only solution that is applicable. solving the problem with your own skills is just crazy talk

BEE-JAY wrote:I was quite amused to read about badgers bouncing engines, have you had much experience with bouncing engines? I can't say that I've ever encountered a bouncing engine. Does this bouncing you speak of cause much engine stress. I can recall many hours of study on engines and many courses but never a mention of a bouncing engine, may you should alert the greater engineering world about this danger before it is to late.

To all those who posted relevant responses to my question about the quality comparrison of engine mounts, thank you.

So your a diesel fitter, and your diesel keeps trying to get out of where its been fit......5 ppl have suggested oem over Thaicrap...a few less have said they had thesame problem, one said he had no problem with aftermarket. , try to listen to the answers, as there is alot of free advice here for all
...my 2 cents is to check by use of a jack, that you havnt got a split gearbox mount....that would allow the vertical tearing of aftermarket (or oem) engine mount. If that looks good, buy the oem mount. If all else fails, you may also wish to buy two magna engine shock absorbers, and see how the 3b handles them....
Andrew

Dont want to be part of a shiat fight but do want to clarify some thoughts.

First It looks like manufacturer mounts are better than aftermarket.

But on the conversation which has evolved from that question.

Movement Limiters.

in everyday use only a small part of the damping effect a mount is capable of is used.

This would mean that limiting chains or straps would in effect be just sitting there doing nothing. ie no extra wear/strain.

then for a large proportion of wheeling the mounts would still be acting within the greater usable amount of damping available. during this time the chains or straps are still doing nothing. ie no extra wear/strain.

then 1 movement in every 10 hours (guess) the limit of the engine mount is pushed beyond its working limits and at risk of breaking. during the last and least powerfull part of this movement (as the damper has still been having an effect during its useable range) then the limiter would say stop with a bit of impact.

so a very rare impact has been transfered to your engine components but your mounts have been at no risk.

I understand that an engine is a series of power spikes, these would still all be dampened (regardsless of a limiter) and only the very tip of the most severe spikes would be flattened.

I really cant see how its effect can be so damaging. And do stop components from exceeding their limits and failing without affecting their normal usabilities and capabilities.

However if they were set up incorrectly and it limited movement to early (ie in the normal opperating range of normal use) then this would have a more regular effect and could cause long term damage, rough body vibrations. etc

As I said im not suggesting bee jay use them, but just want to put that idea out there for comment - not arguement.