Outer Limits 4x4 Board

k3lst wrote:

bogged wrote:

k3lst wrote:ATs are quite over rated and wouldnt get you out of any typical 4x4 situation except corrugation etc.

Again, that depends on what you call offroading.
Old farts travelling the simpson and shit, AT's are perfect for "ALL TERRAIN" types they encounter. So, they are anything but over rated, when you open your eyes to all forms of the hobby.

YMMV

yup thats exactly what i mean by saying corrugation etc

I prefer Simex on the corrugations. The carcass means that I get run loaded right up and run the tyres at about 20psi which absorb most of the corrugations. This is how we ran at Cape York and would do it that way everytime up there now. We wouldn't be able to run that pressure in radials with that type of load.

bogged wrote:Again, that depends on what you call offroading.
Old farts travelling the simpson and shit, AT's are perfect for "ALL TERRAIN" types they encounter. So, they are anything but over rated, when you open your eyes to all forms of the hobby.

YMMV

Exactly.
Many here seem ignorant that chunkiest tyres are terrible in many situations.
Commonly known as "digging yourself a hole".

k3lst wrote:

bogged wrote:

k3lst wrote:ATs are quite over rated and wouldnt get you out of any typical 4x4 situation except corrugation etc.

Again, that depends on what you call offroading.
Old farts travelling the simpson and shit, AT's are perfect for "ALL TERRAIN" types they encounter. So, they are anything but over rated, when you open your eyes to all forms of the hobby.

YMMV

yup thats exactly what i mean by saying corrugation etc

Gee I must be an old fart

Just got the 4 rib ATZ's in a 33 and love them, great on road handling, went everywhere new stt's did offroad. Little noise and they look good.

Rob

KiwiBacon wrote:

bogged wrote:Again, that depends on what you call offroading.
Old farts travelling the simpson and shit, AT's are perfect for "ALL TERRAIN" types they encounter. So, they are anything but over rated, when you open your eyes to all forms of the hobby.

YMMV

Exactly.
Many here seem ignorant that chunkiest tyres are terrible in many situations.
Commonly known as "digging yourself a hole".

Just gotto accept that when you ask for opinions they might differ from your own

Anyone using GT Radial Savero or Adventuro?

KiwiBacon wrote:Anyone using GT Radial Savero or Adventuro?

Been running the MT Adventuro as a cheap allrounder on one of my zooks. Actually been pretty impressed. Good traction in most conditions off road (never had them in heavy vic style mud, mainly drive dry trails/rock) and very impressive onroad. I was concerned I was going to shred them up quickly when they were new as they seemed to cut up offroad but they have gotten better as they've aged. Seem to be reasonably soft and grippy. Usual mud terrain noise levels on the tar. If they were available in more (and bigger) sizes I'd consider grabbing another set.

This is under a stripped out lightweight zook though. I think it may be a very different story under a patrol/cruiser.

zookimal wrote:

KiwiBacon wrote:Anyone using GT Radial Savero or Adventuro?

Been running the MT Adventuro as a cheap allrounder on one of my zooks. Actually been pretty impressed. Good traction in most conditions off road (never had them in heavy vic style mud, mainly drive dry trails/rock) and very impressive onroad. I was concerned I was going to shred them up quickly when they were new as they seemed to cut up offroad but they have gotten better as they've aged. Seem to be reasonably soft and grippy. Usual mud terrain noise levels on the tar. If they were available in more (and bigger) sizes I'd consider grabbing another set.

This is under a stripped out lightweight zook though. I think it may be a very different story under a patrol/cruiser.

Thanks for the feedback, what size are you running and how many km do you think they'll do?
A workmate has some on a prado and was very happy with the noise level, mine is a rangerover.

It's amazing how 35% cheaper can make some tyres instantly more attractive.

31/10.5. If they made anything in the narrow 33-35in range I'd be interested.

Don't know that I could put an accurate km lifespan on them based on my usage. It's not a daily driver now so they'll probably be old and cracked before the actually wear out. Under the zook they've probably done 10k and other than offroad damage they look near new in terms of tread depth.

Under a heavier truck though I'm not sure I'd expect massive kms. I've never seen them tested, but I feel they are a softish compound. I'd say the Prado is better for comparisons to your truck than mine.

The ATZs are starting to get a good rap.

[QUOTE=sibhs]I've got the 4 rib and love 'em, they look great and ride well on the road, they are more than capable offroad. I do 70% road and the rest sand, rock and mud.

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[QUOTE=geordie4x4]I am running the new pattern 4 rib ATZ and love them.
285x75/16" on 16x8" steel wheels, on my GU series 4 and on my camper trailer.

I put them on for a Kimberley trip last year and have been very impresed at everything they have done. We went up through Gibb River road to Mitchell Plateau, Port Warrander track was verry rough and another guy on skinny Olympic overlanders did four tyres in that section only two were repairable.

Went through the NT and down to Alice/Uluru then back to WA on the Gunbarrel and great central road. They have also been to Exmouth twice, out into the goldfields, playing in the mud near Harvey and Collie and on several soft sandy trips around the Warren river and dunes in the SW of WA.

They are a lot more agressive tread than the 5 rib pattern more like the Cooper ST. Not as noisy as the howling Procomp Xterrains that I took off.
Not a quiet as the standard low profile 17" rim factory rubber. So good on the road that I sold my factory wheels and tyres and just have the ATZ.

The back tyres have a few small tread chipps from the rough sharp rock roads of the Pilbarra and Kimberley but have worn very even. 35,000 km and have well over half the tread left. Start with very deep tread like 16mm or more.
They do take a bit more weight to ballance than the standard rubber but are much bigger and heavier (also on steel wheels could have something to do with this).

They only have a two ply sidewall (except for the Specialty sizes) but seem bloody tough and I have given the sidewalls a hiding on rock and sharp stone tracks where several others I travel with have had sidewall punctures.

Also prety good on wet roads so far. It dont get wet often in WA but when it does the roads are slippery. Far better than previous Cooper ST in the wet when they were down to half worn.

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[QUOTE=nab]I agree with the other fellas. I got 285/75/16s on my GU and they are excellent on the rocks, better than my old BFG muds on wet roads and much quieter (they are only 6-7000km old though). Haven't done much sand/mud so I can't comment there. And they look awesome on the 4x4!

I'm very happy with my choice. You won't regret the getting 4 rib![/QUOTE]

got the 5 rib atz on my dads 80 series i took it for a 3000k trip down the coast plenty of highway in the wet, had a big load on, took it on the dunes at stockton and plenty of dirt roads they where absolutely fantastic, still showing no real signs of wear.

sam