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Tyre Topic - Goodyear Wrangler MT/R

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Post by Slunnie »

Shipping cost me US345 for 5 tyres at the start of last year.
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Post by GutSquisher Media »

285x75x16 are $285 Australian in the US for the Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar or $244 for the Wrangler MT/R old style.

So $350 to $427 is still a fcking rip off.
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Post by SIM79 »

K-mart tyres sells goodyear, the I last quote I got for 33s was $280 and goodyear wanted $360.
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Post by bogged »

GutSquisher Media wrote:So $350 to $427 is still a fcking rip off.
x shitloads. if you wanna be scared go price MTZ's...
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Post by SIM79 »

They are available now :D

[QUOTE=Fenring;913328]Saw one in the flesh at a Beaurepaires the other day, on a display. They look quite odd in the the flesh - this one looked like a 31" or similar. In the smaller size the tread looked to be more closely spaced than on my regular MT/R's in the same size.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=bananaman;913362]I was in at beurepairs the other day, they had a set on the shop floor, waiting for a customer to come and get them fitted.
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[QUOTE=BLU-125;913842]Some sizes are available in some states. Victoria has the most sizes, Qld the least, it would seem. Prices seem a little high.[/QUOTE]
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Post by 4wd26 »

I've ordered some MTR Kevlar in 265/70/17 size, should arrive from Melbourne next week.

Will be replacing MTZ's in the same size so I hope they are alright.
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Post by stuee »

I've been hunting a set but none of the tyre places want to include these in their sales :cry: I'm looking at $275-$283 (I think that's right) for the new Kevlar 235/85R16's. The next size up I want is nearly another $100 a tyre :shock:
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Post by mike_nofx »

stuee wrote:I've been hunting a set but none of the tyre places want to include these in their sales :cry: I'm looking at $275-$283 (I think that's right) for the new Kevlar 235/85R16's. The next size up I want is nearly another $100 a tyre :shock:
Thats a very narrow tyre??

Anyway, does anyone know if you can still get the old style anymore? Im looking at getting 35x12.5 (or 315/75) R16. Rough idea on cost?

Im also not a fan of the new style due to the tread on left and right tyres facing different directions!
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Post by bogged »

mike_nofx wrote:Anyway, does anyone know if you can still get the old style anymore? Im looking at getting 35x12.5 (or 315/75) R16. Rough idea on cost?
Yes you can get old style,
But $ ...
285's are RRP $427 now since the Nov Price rise. Can get 285's for $350 though. I think he said $460 for 315 RRP
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Post by B.D.R »

bogged wrote: Yes you can get old style,
But $ ...
285's are RRP $427 now since the Nov Price rise. Can get 285's for $350 though. I think he said $460 for 315 RRP
That's what ET2 36's cost me :shock: .

I don't know why any one would pay that sort of money for an MTR, when 35 Bighorns are $360 each
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Post by bogged »

B.D.R wrote:I don't know why any one would pay that sort of money for an MTR, when 35 Bighorns are $360 each
15in tyres are always cheaper...
go price 17in sizes if u wanna be scared!!
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Post by Patroler »

Still no complaints with mine, went up the vic high country weekend before queens bday with a mate who drives a GU ute - I'm in a GQ LWB, both TD42 - his has a turbo mine doesn't, so fairly similar vehicles, he also had an 80l water tank and both fuel tanks full under tray, so not too light in the rear - he's running 265/75/16 MTZ's i'm on MT/R's - same size.
Anyway, went down through pykes flat to go up corn hill logging track, i drove through the bog hole at the bottom, almost got stuck but pulled through ok - dirty...
On the way up corn hill i went first and didn't really have any dramas, was still at 40psi - mate had already dropped to 25 at the start of the day and about 1/2 way up lost forward progress and had to roll back to a switchback and drop more out around 20psi, he made it but so did I without airing down.
Was 1st low most of the way up with some wheelspin here and there - wet clay mud.
Could be different drivers that made the difference - he's a little more gentle with things than me and maybe just didn't clear the treads.
Either way i'm happy with the mt/r's thus far.
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Post by B.D.R »

bogged wrote:
B.D.R wrote:I don't know why any one would pay that sort of money for an MTR, when 35 Bighorns are $360 each
15in tyres are always cheaper...
go price 17in sizes if u wanna be scared!!
I don't need any more shock's, so i'll be sticking to 15's :lol:
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Post by Jeeps »

B.D.R wrote:
bogged wrote: Yes you can get old style,
But $ ...
285's are RRP $427 now since the Nov Price rise. Can get 285's for $350 though. I think he said $460 for 315 RRP
That's what ET2 36's cost me :shock: .

I don't know why any one would pay that sort of money for an MTR, when 35 Bighorns are $360 each
Tyres are cheaper in Vic for some reason. I paid $380 for my 32" mtr's (buy 3 get one free deal) 3 months ago and that was dirt cheap. The cheapest Bighorns in a 32" size i could find at the time was about $330ea

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Post by 4wd26 »

Well I have driven on the new MTR's today.
They are quieter than the MTZ's engine noise is louder than the tyres and they also don't exhibit the "blockiness" where you feel each tread block at low speeds.

They do "growl" a bit like the MTZ's did all the time when pushed hard into a low speed corner, this is when the aggressive blocks on the outer tread hit the road.

So far very good. Enjoying the smooth ride.
try them offroad next weekend[/u]
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Post by SIM79 »

A review from Petersons 4wheel & offroad.

http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techarticl ... index.html

Its good to see that these tyres will be true sizes.
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Post by bogged »

4wd26 wrote:Well I have driven on the new MTR's today.
They are quieter than the MTZ's engine noise is louder than the tyres and they also don't exhibit the "blockiness" where you feel each tread block at low speeds.

They do "growl" a bit like the MTZ's did all the time when pushed hard into a low speed corner, this is when the aggressive blocks on the outer tread hit the road.

So far very good. Enjoying the smooth ride.
try them offroad next weekend[/u]
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Post by 4wd26 »

bogged wrote:
4wd26 wrote:Well I have driven on the new MTR's today.
They are quieter than the MTZ's engine noise is louder than the tyres and they also don't exhibit the "blockiness" where you feel each tread block at low speeds.

They do "growl" a bit like the MTZ's did all the time when pushed hard into a low speed corner, this is when the aggressive blocks on the outer tread hit the road.

So far very good. Enjoying the smooth ride.
try them offroad next weekend
If you were after another comment on these tyres, :rofl:
Had them on the Triton and have done near 10,000kms.
small amount of wear (about 2mm) and a bit of feathering of the outside blocks- but no chipping.

One thing I'm a bit wary of is the need for correct allignment, due to them being asemetrical, regardless of what you do you cannot get the outside blocks to the inside if you "round" them off due to bad alignment/ camber.

very happy with my choice- noticed on another thread that mentioned they aired down well in sand (bagged) I had the oposite experience where there is little bagging evident at 18psi I've been lower due to conditions (really dry sand at Byfield) down to 12psi. These tyres love sand. Might be the difference in tyre profile/ tyre size.


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12psi at orange bowl- byfield NP
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18psi Station Creek Beach Coffs Coast.
Still havn't had them in the mud- Brisbane is dry ATM, but gravel roads and rocks/ offroading have posed no problems.
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Post by def90 »

just bought a 'kevlar' set for my disco II 235/85's, quiet on road and handle well too, no off road experience yet, beach this weekend.

had old style mtrs before and loved them (mostly) i've had 285/75's on my defender and loved them in all conditions (don't do mud though) however i've had 33 x 12,5's and they handled like crap and were noise as. at the same time i got 285's on my defender my mate got 33 x 12.50's on his 75 and through the life of the tyres mine handled miles better, i got min. 10K klm's more from them and were way quieter. and his ony saw blacktop and beach as mine were actually wheeled.

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Post by BowTieGQ »

So any updates on the new ones? Been a couple of months now. I'm after some old ones but no one can get them anymore. How's the latest prices for the new ones too?
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Post by bogged »

BowTieGQ wrote:So any updates on the new ones? Been a couple of months now. I'm after some old ones but no one can get them anymore. How's the latest prices for the new ones too?
285's $440each last week..
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Post by azriel »

Ive had some on my 4runner for a few weeks now and apart from the dodgy bastards that fitted them and then having to replace them free of charge cause of their attempt at covering up and lying i love em.

Havent had a proper mud bash yet but for anything else they are brilliant. Really good on rocks i found compared to older MT i've tried years ago.
Cant comment on wear as yet as i've only done 1000km at the most so far.
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Post by johnsy86 »

does anyone kno if you cant get the 40" kevlar tyre here in aus im thinking of giving these a try but want bigger than 37". cheers
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Post by BowTieGQ »

bogged wrote:
BowTieGQ wrote:So any updates on the new ones? Been a couple of months now. I'm after some old ones but no one can get them anymore. How's the latest prices for the new ones too?
285's $440each last week..
Bruce, interested in some more if good price? New style only. Can't find any old ones in 285.
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Post by bogged »

BowTieGQ wrote:
bogged wrote:
BowTieGQ wrote:So any updates on the new ones? Been a couple of months now. I'm after some old ones but no one can get them anymore. How's the latest prices for the new ones too?
285's $440each last week..
Bruce, interested in some more if good price? New style only. Can't find any old ones in 285.
Na IM skint at moment, xmas killed the bank, I dont think I'd go the new ones.. NFI what I'll go next.
I like the Toyo Muddys but their price is poo...
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Post by johnsy86 »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq961t5L ... re=related nice vid of the 42's in action dont kno weather these sizes are available in aus but im seriously contemplating giving these a try even tho they are radial, might try and get them in a 37" or 40"
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Post by Yom »

i have bought myself 4 of these. Couldn't justify $430 to put one as a spare though... :oops: Will chuck a bighorn or something on as a spare so it won't hurt as much if someone flogs it.

$430 each, 285/75r16. Only bought 3, got one for free. Good deal really.

Can't wait to get them and give them a run. They will likely become daily driven tyres. Will be mounting them on 16x8" Procomp rockcrawler rims to the JK.
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Post by Slunnie »

Just quoted $350 285/75-16 and $400 315/75-16 for the kevlars.
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Post by bogged »

Slunnie wrote:Just quoted $350 285/75-16 and $400 315/75-16 for the kevlars.
sounds very cheap.... buy em and sell em to Yom :D he pays premium but he does get 1 freeby tyre.
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Post by Slunnie »

bogged wrote:
Slunnie wrote:Just quoted $350 285/75-16 and $400 315/75-16 for the kevlars.
sounds very cheap.... buy em and sell em to Yom :D he pays premium but he does get 1 freeby tyre.
Yom got a good deal with 4 tyres @ $1290 ($322.50ea) and 5 for $1720 ($344ea)

Pretty good considering that I bought my current set of 4 for $1248 ($312ea) on the 24/04/04. Almost 6 years and 100200km's later. To be fair I'd have to remove about 10-15,000km from when I've run other tyres..... holy crap they've done well!

The 315's I thought were cheap at $400


Here we go, pictures from 10mins go. 90,000km and almost 6 year old MTR's. Used as DD, desert touring and moderate tripping.

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I ummed and ahhed about replacing them with km2's, but I think I'll go MTR's with Kevlar - when you're on a winning thing.
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