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Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:36 pm
by johnsy86
ezzman wrote:WICKED wrote:ezzman wrote:Big_GQ wrote:Pretty sure some one is building longfield cvs to suit nissan gq gu and then running hub adapter.has any one heard any more seems like a cheaper opion to me rather than spending big money hybrid diifs.
Dragtec is doing this set up using the 80 series longfields with custom axles and drive flanges. i'm not sure about price but will be a decent upgrade for someone not having the coin to swpend on a hybrid diff.
Criddy is selling Garners Anthony.
yes i know who makes them, and i know who is selling them. that is why i posted it.
ssshhh its a secret anthony
u could just learn to drive and pick better lines and not have to get a hybrid diff to beat your way thru a crappy line
at the end of the day altho these diffs sound great another option is vehicle design take someone like 11evl's zook he only runs lux diffs yet goes exteamly well ,its a complete package not just a diff.
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:03 am
by joshy
WICKED wrote:joshy wrote:I can upload pics of the garner set up tomorrow
What drive flange do you use?
Heard a 1##s soild axle flange is the same bolt pattern as a GU.
Custom. Not sure about that, maybe?
Drive flange
Bush to replace needle bearing in spindle, these are now coming with oil grooves.
Bush in pressed in
Custom axle assembly
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:11 am
by johnsy86
i think thats the best budget offering here, gu diff with longfeilds
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:03 pm
by Micka
johnsy86 wrote:i think thats the best budget offering here, gu diff with longfeilds
Complete with the same shitty steering angles.
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:05 pm
by johnsy86
still what i would class as budget, how much have your diffs cost you?
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:30 pm
by Z()LTAN
My 2 fully built Dana 60/70 from the states cost about the same as my built LC axles with replacement parts for breakages.
lol...
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:34 pm
by johnsy86
thats interesting to hear, my built 60 series only cost me $2500 am yet to break it thats a big yet lol, guess it comes down to driving style im not as hard on my rig as you im guessing, mines purely for crawling if it was for speed id be looking elsewhere,also forgot my rear cost me $300 just stock gq with welded lsd nothing flash but does the job and it is what i class as budget.
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:47 pm
by Z()LTAN
Dont get me wrong, if i knew what i know now i wouldnt of had so many breakages. The 60s diff i built for the 45 series is about as bullet proof as you can get minus 6stud forged knuckles.
When i started longfeilds were unheard of.
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:15 pm
by WICKED
johnsy86 wrote:60 series only cost me $2500
my rear cost me $300 just stock gq with welded lsd
And your selling it for $19000?
johnsy86 wrote:
PRICE AND PRICE CONDITIONS: $19k as is or $16500 minus tyres
Sweeny's car works well but still breaks cvs. That's fine if you don't mind down time and waiting for parts. My longs took around 4 weeks to replace.
As for your dig at my driving, why am I beating you at Tough Tracks?
Criddy hasn't got a firm price on the garner conversion yet.
Zoltan - I'm not surprised by that at all. By the time you buy 6 shooters, longs, locker,bracing, hubs, pinion spacer, gears etc your not far off a built diff but still have shit steering, easily broken Cvs and axles with a limited ratio low pinion in a weak housing.
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:17 pm
by WICKED
Z()LTAN wrote:Dont get me wrong, if i knew what i know now i wouldnt of had so many breakages. The 60s diff i built for the 45 series is about as bullet proof as you can get minus 6stud forged knuckles.
When i started longfeilds were unheard of.
What did you do to the 60 Diffs?
Lol that's a long time!
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:27 pm
by madmacca
WICKED wrote:Z()LTAN wrote:Dont get me wrong, if i knew what i know now i wouldnt of had so many breakages. The 60s diff i built for the 45 series is about as bullet proof as you can get minus 6stud forged knuckles.
When i started longfeilds were unheard of.
What did you do to the 60 Diffs?
Lol that's a long time!
from his build thread here Ben
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic ... 6&t=227809" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Z()LTAN wrote:
Front D60 70" WMS, Yukon 4.88 CWP, Detroit locker,Toyota triple drilled flange, Yukon 35spl axles, CTM joints, dedenbear knuckles, forged c's, kingpin preload bolt mod, highsteer with 7/8 uniball arms, 8" full hydro PSC ram, 7/8 clevis joints, Fully trussed and shaved.
Rear D70HD 70.5" WMS, 35spl, 4.88 CWP, Detroit locker, Toyota triple drilled flange, Fully trussed and shaved.
edit woops you were talking about his old 60 series diffs eh , my bad
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:32 pm
by johnsy86
WICKED wrote:johnsy86 wrote:60 series only cost me $2500
my rear cost me $300 just stock gq with welded lsd
And your selling it for $19000?
johnsy86 wrote:
PRICE AND PRICE CONDITIONS: $19k as is or $16500 minus tyres
Sweeny's car works well but still breaks cvs. That's fine if you don't mind down time and waiting for parts. My longs took around 4 weeks to replace.
As for your dig at my driving, why am I beating you at Tough Tracks?
Criddy hasn't got a firm price on the garner conversion yet.
Zoltan - I'm not surprised by that at all. By the time you buy 6 shooters, longs, locker,bracing, hubs, pinion spacer, gears etc your not far off a built diff but still have shit steering, easily broken Cvs and axles with a limited ratio low pinion in a weak housing.
ooooo hit a nerve hey, better check my quote hey it was a joke with anthony, did u liken the phrase "u could just learn to drive and pick better lines and not have to get a hybrid diff to beat your way thru a crappy line
" to yourself did you
im looking forward to round 3, ive actualy got an engine that runs
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:39 pm
by WICKED
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:08 pm
by Big_GQ
johnsy86 wrote:i think thats the best budget offering here, gu diff with longfeilds
I think they have warranty and cv's are servicable.would buy a set but my new project is road driven as well.
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:28 pm
by WICKED
Big_GQ wrote:johnsy86 wrote:i think thats the best budget offering here, gu diff with longfeilds
I think they have warranty and cv's are servicable.would buy a set but my new project is road driven as well.
What about running free wheeling hubs with no internals during the day and changing to drive flanges when your going wheeling?
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:43 pm
by ezzman
WICKED wrote:Big_GQ wrote:johnsy86 wrote:i think thats the best budget offering here, gu diff with longfeilds
I think they have warranty and cv's are servicable.would buy a set but my new project is road driven as well.
What about running free wheeling hubs with no internals during the day and changing to drive flanges when your going wheeling?
what will stop the cv/shaft from floating in and out if you do that?
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:14 pm
by A.J.
ezzman wrote:WICKED wrote:Big_GQ wrote:johnsy86 wrote:i think thats the best budget offering here, gu diff with longfeilds
I think they have warranty and cv's are servicable.would buy a set but my new project is road driven as well.
What about running free wheeling hubs with no internals during the day and changing to drive flanges when your going wheeling?
what will stop the cv/shaft from floating in and out if you do that?
The spindle will stop it floating out anyway plus if it's part time 4wd, obviously otherwise there would be no point, there is no drive to the front diff in 2wd so no issue with floating as there wont be rotation in the diff.
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:50 pm
by ezzman
yeah i guess with no drive it should be alright, i don't think you would be able to do this anyway as i think the outer shaft is longer on the 80 series longs compared to the patrol outer so you would not be able to just rip out the guts of a trol hub to bolt it on for road duties. could be wrong, Joshy can you confirm this for us?
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:17 pm
by joshy
Won't get to the shed for a few days but think too long for manual hub, maybe an auto hub..
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:37 pm
by Micka
johnsy86 wrote:still what i would class as budget, how much have your diffs cost you?
Much less than you might imagine. Most expensive part so far have been the inner axles at $2k landed. But for treated chromo 40 spline Mog60 steer inners, that's pretty cheap.
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:45 pm
by johnsy86
Micka wrote:johnsy86 wrote:still what i would class as budget, how much have your diffs cost you?
Much less than you might imagine. Most expensive part so far have been the inner axles at $2k landed. But for treated chromo 40 spline Mog60 steer inners, that's pretty cheap.
yeah that does sound very reasonable, what steering lock u expecting?
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:00 pm
by uninformed
why does it matter if they are a solid drive flange as opposed to a FWH on a road driven vehicle
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:25 pm
by WICKED
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:29 pm
by WICKED
These where at Bowlys this arvo
Dave - 0416 288 290
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:52 pm
by 440 BB
what are you running for your rear diff wicked?
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:39 pm
by WICKED
440 BB wrote:what are you running for your rear diff wicked?
It's a GQ H260 37spline
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:56 pm
by 440 BB
do you think the h233 is up to the task?
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:37 am
by WICKED
440 BB wrote:do you think the h233 is up to the task?
What task is that? The longfileds or my Dana60 setup?
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:57 am
by 440 BB
for a rear to match d60 front
Re: best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:07 am
by WICKED
440 BB wrote:for a rear to match d60 front
I'm not gonna change what I've got, dont think it'll have any issues. That's the h260.
I think a low pinion H233 rear with 35 spline axles (same as my front) would be strong enough.
