Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:57 pm
Looking pretty wicked Frank 
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:35 am
Gee that has come up a treat. Now its time to teach the nissan owners a lesson or two!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:48 am
saw it yesterday in the flesh !!! 
very very nice !!
(no ramp at the moment , it went home !!
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should be driving , by now !! HEY frank !!!
very very nice !!
(no ramp at the moment , it went home !!
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should be driving , by now !! HEY frank !!!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:53 am
moose wrote:(no ramp at the moment , it went home !!
BUGGER!!!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:37 am
Yeah he tells me the ramp maybe back by the weekend.
The front springs are too soft (dives under brakes) so some stiffer ones have to go in.
Just some very minor stuff left and the wheel alignment.
The front springs are too soft (dives under brakes) so some stiffer ones have to go in.
Just some very minor stuff left and the wheel alignment.
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:57 am
Frank , do you have a camera fone ??? (or e-mail addy !!)
I have a couple of pics 4 ya !!!! HeHe !!!
I have a couple of pics 4 ya !!!! HeHe !!!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:08 pm
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:37 pm
They dobinsons springs frank?
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:57 pm
Yep their Dobinson springs.
A spy sent these to me
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A spy sent these to me
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:30 pm
WTF
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:37 pm
I'm guessing those Safeway gutters will never seem quite so challenging...
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:43 pm
Are you using off the shelf style springs(eg;Rangie,Patrol,Cruiser) or are these custom made?
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:57 pm
looking awsome Frank
Can't wait 2 see some pics of it flexing on the ramp
Can't wait 2 see some pics of it flexing on the ramp
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:57 am
If we dont get pics of it whiles it not driveable, then we'll never get any. Frank will be out wheeling all day and all night and will never have time to take any pics 
J/k
Angelo
J/k
Angelo
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:36 am
Yes Cheezy found GQ springs fit into the Paj rear perches it's tight but works. The front are GQ coil perches and shock towers.
The springs are Dobinson GQ 3" lift coils and the shocks Tough Dog adjustabales. All the bushes are standard GQ he tries to use as much off the shelf stuff as possible so replacememts are easy.
The springs are Dobinson GQ 3" lift coils and the shocks Tough Dog adjustabales. All the bushes are standard GQ he tries to use as much off the shelf stuff as possible so replacememts are easy.
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:46 am
Bitsamissin wrote:Yep their Dobinson springs.
A spy sent these to me
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:46 am
Bitsamissin wrote:Yes Cheezy found GQ springs fit into the Paj rear perches it's tight but works. The front are GQ coil perches and shock towers.
The springs are Dobinson GQ 3" lift coils and the shocks Tough Dog adjustabales. All the bushes are standard GQ he tries to use as much off the shelf stuff as possible so replacememts are easy.
This is always the best way to do this kind of thing. Getting custom coils would have been a PITA every time you wanted to change the set up.
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:56 am
So ....
pajero + GQ + Bundera + hilux = ???
all it needs now is a Chev under the bonnet & it will be cookin' !!!
pajero + GQ + Bundera + hilux = ???
all it needs now is a Chev under the bonnet & it will be cookin' !!!
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:04 pm
that is unreal!!!!!!!!!!!!!
when will it be in 4wd monthly?
when will it be in 4wd monthly?
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:29 pm
Super Pajero
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:33 pm
I am seriously thinking the SAS idea, although nobody has done it before here (at least in a pajero). First I have to look for the right axle. The problem is the position of the differential (driver's side). I would prefer not to get involved with swaping if possible.
I know that there are Dana's 30 from Jeeps, but I don't consider them very strong. There are also older Dana's 44 that I am looking for. Do you know other makes/models with front axles and diff in the driver's side?
I know that there are Dana's 30 from Jeeps, but I don't consider them very strong. There are also older Dana's 44 that I am looking for. Do you know other makes/models with front axles and diff in the driver's side?
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:51 pm
xappas wrote:I am seriously thinking the SAS idea, although nobody has done it before here (at least in a pajero). First I have to look for the right axle. The problem is the position of the differential (driver's side). I would prefer not to get involved with swaping if possible.
I know that there are Dana's 30 from Jeeps, but I don't consider them very strong. There are also older Dana's 44 that I am looking for. Do you know other makes/models with front axles and diff in the driver's side?
Pretty sure this one used a Bundera front axle that had the axle tubes cut of and new ones weld on the other side. Then by reading this thread it sounds lke there is some Hilux stuff used for steering bits.
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:06 pm
Yeah it is a hard one...............
I originally wanted to put a Dana 44 in which are available with a left side pumpkin and are the perfect width for a Paj but Dana parts are not that common over here and tend to be expensive. The right one is from a early 80's Jeep Grand Wagoneer but they are only low pinion diffs.
Then I decided on a Hilux axle with a high pinion Bundera diff mainly because parts are everywhere here for them and I could run 5.29's. The only problem is the diff housing has to be reversed but it still runs standard length axles. With the IFS hub spacers the width worked out spot on. I guess the other options are a 80 Series Toyo Cruiser but it would have to be cut down the same with a Nissan Patrol and you end up with non standard axles unless you want the extra width.
I don't know of any other live axle with a left side pumpkin other than the Dana's (I wouldn't touch anything smaller than a 44). Also I strongly recommend to select a high pinion diff so the propshaft lines up much better and gives better ground clearance.
I originally wanted to put a Dana 44 in which are available with a left side pumpkin and are the perfect width for a Paj but Dana parts are not that common over here and tend to be expensive. The right one is from a early 80's Jeep Grand Wagoneer but they are only low pinion diffs.
Then I decided on a Hilux axle with a high pinion Bundera diff mainly because parts are everywhere here for them and I could run 5.29's. The only problem is the diff housing has to be reversed but it still runs standard length axles. With the IFS hub spacers the width worked out spot on. I guess the other options are a 80 Series Toyo Cruiser but it would have to be cut down the same with a Nissan Patrol and you end up with non standard axles unless you want the extra width.
I don't know of any other live axle with a left side pumpkin other than the Dana's (I wouldn't touch anything smaller than a 44). Also I strongly recommend to select a high pinion diff so the propshaft lines up much better and gives better ground clearance.
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:45 pm
How can I tell if an axle is high or low pinion? 
I must remind that my front diff is low pinion (according to your database ). Does it make any difference...?
I can find Dana 44 here from older Blazers but they are very wide. I am also looking from older CJ's.
One other option I am looking now is from a Mercedes Gwagen. You can find cheap spear parts here from old military supplies. I can get a full car without engine for about 1,200 euros. And both axles have mechanical lockers.
I must remind that my front diff is low pinion (according to your database ). Does it make any difference...?
I can find Dana 44 here from older Blazers but they are very wide. I am also looking from older CJ's.
One other option I am looking now is from a Mercedes Gwagen. You can find cheap spear parts here from old military supplies. I can get a full car without engine for about 1,200 euros. And both axles have mechanical lockers.
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:42 pm
SWEET I here Rocky track calling
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:22 pm
HG wrote:SWEET I here Rocky track calling
memories
*cough* tie rod *cough*Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 6:24 pm
Well I don't think I'll be busting 25mm MQ tie rods up there in a hurry
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:15 am
Bitsamissin wrote:Well I don't think I'll be busting 25mm MQ tie rods up there in a hurry
Nah , i dont think so either
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:35 pm
When are you going to replace the rest of the pos Mitsubishi stuff Frank? 
Seriously, it looks to have come up really well. I'd make sure to carry around a few fire extinguishers and smoke detectors now. Too much effort has gone into it.
Seriously, it looks to have come up really well. I'd make sure to carry around a few fire extinguishers and smoke detectors now. Too much effort has gone into it.
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:27 pm
How about a report on how well the beast goes now ----- have you done any tracks yet ? and of course PHOTO'S