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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:09 pm
by STUMPY
My Lil Lux wrote:Drop Bear wrote:Ok its all setup on mine and took it out for a bash the last 2 days. Im very happy with the flex i can keep atleast 3 wheels on the ground now most of the time so i dont get stuck as easy as before. It has dropped a fraction only because the spring pack ive got has 2 less leaves in it but it rides wonderfully. I might run lift blocks, but will have to get the traction bar sorted at the same time, but im not all the fussed with the height it worked very well. I just readjusted the handbrake and it works as it did before, the diff went back an inch so this is why it tightens up around the fuel tank. Im running the shocks /\ and im happy with this setup, road handling is fine and it worked well off road, time will tell though.
Put my IFS springs in rear the other night as well, use to run lift blocks, but wasn't happy with effect on handbrake and made it difficult to get to brake adjuster, so thinkin of cutting rear shackle mount of putting in new one with about 75mm drop in rear mount, this will level the car up with the front which runs 75mm dropped front and 2" ext hangers, only thing I'm worried about is angle of rear uni on tailshaft.
just run some 5 degree castor correction plates. i think its a good idea dropping the rear hangers, less axle wrap, can relocate your hanger to bring the diff forward and not have to run super long shackles.
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:59 pm
by Da Lux
so if u moved the rear spring mounts forward an inch which would also move it down, which would mean the blocks wouldnt hav to be so big, and i could probably use my snake racin extended shackles, which arent as long as the ones we put on badlux's. and would it flex the same, or is it the 200mm ext shackles which provide most of tha flex
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:31 am
by Aza
Da Lux wrote:so if u moved the rear spring mounts forward an inch which would also move it down, which would mean the blocks wouldnt hav to be so big, and i could probably use my snake racin extended shackles, which arent as long as the ones we put on badlux's. and would it flex the same, or is it the 200mm ext shackles which provide most of tha flex
u would get more flex, not the same though. the shackles give most of the flex and the fact the spring is longer also gives it more flex. if u wanted to get the same amount with normal rear springs u would need to move the front hangers more than just an inch and would need the longer shackles. i would say it just wouldnt be worth it. and moving the front spring hanger too much in my own mind is just un practible. i would say too much effort to try to get the same result. i have not acturly seen this done before so i can not be sure if it works the same
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:40 am
by FastEddie
Don't want to hijack the thread but are these bolt on upper shock mounts legal in Aus
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:03 pm
by Aza
pic no workie
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:23 pm
by FastEddie
Sorry pic no work, this is where I seen it.
www.budbuilt.com/uppershockmount2_2.jpg
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:04 pm
by Aza
heres the flex from standard ifs rears, no leaves taken out, etc. with rears up front. for those who wanted it earlier
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:09 pm
by Aza
sorry bout the cr@p quality
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:28 pm
by Da Lux
so wat would be tha difference in usin 200mm ext. shackles or tha snake racin ext. shackles which are roun 50mm shorter, would the angle on tha shackle increase more \ or would it straighten up a bit towards standard. and wat difference in flex would this have
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:33 pm
by My Lil Lux
If they are longer than the snake ones, more angle.
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:43 pm
by Da Lux
i thought that if tha shackle was shorter the angle would increase, eg if u left the standard shackles on wouldnt they be pushed right back towards the rear, and then every time you extended the shackle length the angle would come back slightly
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:48 pm
by My Lil Lux
Yeh my mistake, didn't read it properly
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:00 am
by roberts
can you put ifs rears in the front
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:08 am
by Slayer
roberts wrote:can you put ifs rears in the front
u can, but they will outflex the std lux steering and u will bend or snap the J arm in no time.. normally ifs rears only go in the front once u have done cross over steering.. but in lame mans terms, yes u can.
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:34 pm
by whiteknight
Drop Bear wrote:Im in the process of doing this myself. I got the proper bushes for the IFS model the spring came out of from Pedders (go to supercheap though). The shackle bushes are 18mm inside diameter, you could use your old pins if you can press them out, but i have opted for 18mm high tensile bolts with nylocks. I could only find greasable pins the stock length, so i have turned these bolts into greasable bolts (im using 10mm bar, stock is 6mm so they will be too short). As for the front mount for the spring, if you take out the sleeve that comes with the bush it will take the stock anchor pin perfectly.
Aza, Bubs... ill take heaps of pics when i put this in and write up a DIY thread on it, your input would be valuable as i havent done this before myself.
Is the DIY thread (with pics!) nearing completeion? Am looking at doing this and it would save me bothering Bubs all the time with Q's....
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 2:16 pm
by mmaaxx
quick question for you knowledgable people...I know Im draggin up an old thread.....
you guys typically fit the IFS rears with a 200mm shackle....
couldnt you fit a 2" raised IFS rear leave pack and fit a smaller or standard shackle?
I havent dont this mod yet but was wondering if this could be a way of still getting abit more flex without the illegality of the longer shackles being fitted?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 9:56 am
by mhgill
You would get the lift but you would get bugger all flex.
