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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 4:55 pm
by Screwy
ill follow one but not lead it :roll:

Ill be gettin mine done in a coupla weeks also with any luck so will let yas know once its done ;)

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:02 pm
by r0ck_m0nkey
Just a thought.

Maybe an Engineers business is going down the shitter, so went for some scaremongering rumour tactics to gain some more business.

engineering

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 6:09 pm
by mud gu
just gonna put this out there

i have a gu patrol with 6 inch spring lift 2 inch body lift and 35s.

if anyone know of a engineer that is more likely to pass this than other engineers could they message me.

cheers

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 6:36 pm
by Syzygy
an email reply from the RTA when i asked about these changes and whether they would affect a car with a 2" srping and 1" tyre increase...



I'm not aware of any future changes to the requirements for modifications to motor vehicles.

The modifications to your vehicle, will require engineers certification due to the issue of the suspension lift and the diameter increase of the tyres.

The engineer needs to determine if these modifications affect any Australian Design Rule and if the vehicle still complies to those rules.

A list of engineers is attached.

If you have any other enquiries, don't hesitate to reply or contact Technical Enquiries on 1300 137 302.

Regards

so and so
Technical Enquiries Officer


i was not aware that all lift and tryre increases needed to be checked by an engineer, but there it is.

Engineering in NSW get it done.

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 7:10 pm
by RN
In Vic you have to provide a RWC to the buyer on sale or sell the vehicle with suspended rego. The new owner then has to obtain a RWC to get the reg'n transferred into their name.

How does the engineer thing work in NSW? If it is engineered now does that give it a ticket for life for all the owners that will purchase it over the years? Or does the engineer certificate run out when the vehicle changes hands and a RWC has to be provided.? If the latter would a RW tester give a RWC under the new regs even though it was e,ngineered under the old?

If the engineer certificate indeed expires on sale then what happens to all the moded parts that were added?

RN

Re: Engineering in NSW get it done.

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 7:59 am
by Gribble
RoadNazi wrote:In Vic you have to provide a RWC to the buyer on sale or sell the vehicle with suspended rego. The new owner then has to obtain a RWC to get the reg'n transferred into their name.

How does the engineer thing work in NSW? If it is engineered now does that give it a ticket for life for all the owners that will purchase it over the years? Or does the engineer certificate run out when the vehicle changes hands and a RWC has to be provided.? If the latter would a RW tester give a RWC under the new regs even though it was e,ngineered under the old?

If the engineer certificate indeed expires on sale then what happens to all the moded parts that were added?

RN


No expiry, the only proviso is that you dont further modify the vehicle or the engineers slip becomes invalid.

If you dont modify the the vehicle any more, then its just normal pink slips (rwc's) every year like normal. (yay for NSW).

Re: engineering

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 8:52 am
by more power
mud gu wrote:its not engineered but its also my work truck so i could be really screwed.

a mate got his gq engineered with 8 inch springs 3 inch body lift and his 38s on might have to see that engineer.
tell us the phone number son.................

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 6:16 pm
by sideshow
So if these new rules come in nothing over 2 inch will be able to get an engineers certificate?


Eg:90 GQ 2" body, 4" coils and 35s

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 6:48 pm
by Gribble
sideshow wrote:So if these new rules come in nothing over 2 inch will be able to get an engineers certificate?


Eg:90 GQ 2" body, 4" coils and 35s


No, if the rumour is true, a 2" lift is an owner mod, no cert required.
Anything above that needs a cert.

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 6:58 pm
by sideshow
I thought that was pretty much how the rules were now

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 9:31 pm
by Screwy
sideshow wrote:I thought that was pretty much how the rules were now


yeh thats how i thought they were currently....

according to the rumers, the new rules were, 2 inch is max lift aloud to be engineered. any lift above that will no longer be engineered and therefore if no engineers cert is provided, illegal.....

i hope this does not go through :cry:

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 10:00 pm
by bogged
the only thing to do is wait and see if it happens.
how many eons have they been talkin about bringing in NATIONAL road rules?

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 10:07 pm
by -Nemesis-
Did anyone else read Syzygy's post above? If thats genuine RTA response then i'd say there's a good chance it's all BS.
Having said that, I had an engineer tell me there are new guidelines coming about body lifts. Didn't really have anything to do with this subject, I think it was more of a standards for them to follow, as there probably isn't a current one.

Actually, i'll quote it:

Please note that the NSW RTA is currently in the process of issuing an instruction on body lifts on 4 x 4 vehicles. This will impact on the ability to certify this mod in NSW.


I basically wrote back "WTF?" But in a nice way. And he wrote:

It would appear from communication with the RTA that a 2" or 50mm body lift will be OK. Bearing in mind that it will depend on vehicle build date due to Australia Design Rule compliance. Also the 50mm lift may inpact on brake hose length throughout suspension travel., steering intermediate shaft coupling etc.

The bulletin is yet to be released BUT there are issues as mentioned above and then it goes onto roll over testing due to increased height of the centre of gravity, spring over kits etc etc.