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have you got a formal email you wish everyone to send IE formated email

bushytas wrote:have you got a formal email you wish everyone to send IE formated email

Well no haven't got that far yet does someone want to write one up

i can try if ya's like but wouldnt be ready till tomorrow avo

bushytas wrote:i can try if ya's like but wouldnt be ready till tomorrow avo

Thanks mate that would be great

DR Frankenstine wrote:Ok lets get a central location or a couple of them with our own plan.(A sensible one).
Place it in a few locations around the state and get signatures.
I can organise 2 places in moonah and 1 in hobart and maybe two in launceston and 1 in devonport
Word of mouth should do the trick but it wouldn't hurt to advertise in the local papers.
I'll personally pay for 1 add.
C'mon someone good with this sort of stuff get something drawn up.
Peter

Good work Peter. With an attitude like this you should get far with it!

This was our response to one of the questions put forwasrd in the Bunyip Recreation Draft.

15. Do you believe other tracks should be opened for use by four wheel drivers and if so, on what basis should this be done?

Yes we do believe other tracks should be opened where it is sustainable and noise impact by trail bikes isn’t increased. This will ensure that a full range of experiences remains available to 4wders and will help maintain a large area which will help distribute the impact of other track closures.

ok this letter is just about done i will poet it soon but if you dont like it or would like to see something changed tell me as your input is what might change there minds and its not just me in typing away for its everyone

Hi again all
I just sent this off to all the above addreses. Probably needs refining but anyway what do you think.



To whom it may concern.
I am writing this letter to express my grave fears that access to Southport lagoon, lapreena track and the spit area will be unfairly taken away from the hard core four wheel driver.
WHY ?? this is my question.
I understand the concern of environmental damage and subsequent silting of the lagoon but there is no proof of silting or fauna damage that I have heard of. I fish Southport lagoon whenever I go in there offroading, and have done for years, it is still today one of the best estuary fishing spots in Tasmania. Yes I agree that it is a mess at times with mud and track widening, However when the tracks get to damaged for a vehicle to access the wild growing grasses soon take over. If you were to walk anywhere off the muddy (more often dusty in summer) tracks you would see well grown over old tracks. The satellite pictures of the area show a well formed set of tracks into the area and you must admit the farming and logging close by look way worse from the air.
I can see that if Southport is stolen from us hard core offroaders,we will be forced to go somewhere else and end up making that a mess. We are tax payers as well and deserve the right to have an area like Southport lagoon to off road in. As the Greens deserve the right to have parcels of land saved from logging or farmers have the right to clear land or bush walkers to have walking tracks or hydro to build dams (don't they look ugly with no water in them).
Southport lagoon area is no good for bushwalking, no good for running cattle, no good for growing trees and you certainly can't dam it so let us have a damn hard off road track with great camping and great views when you finally get there.
On a final note another thing to consider is the financial damage that will be caused to places like the township of Dover, Southport and Huonville. All these towns would have money spent at them whenever someone goes offroading into Southport. You will generally need fuel and food when coming out from a weekend away.
Please consider these points when making your decision

Yours sincerely


Peter Booth

Dude it has to be worded a bit better than that it looks impressive but your use of words is incorrect.
But im in not way picking on you it’s just if we are going to do this it has to be right so as not to be laughed at and thrown in the bin with the rest of the aggressive letters.
And we will need more than one letter to send in.
It’s always good to have two blanket letters to fill there email boxes up with even more if Everone is able to

just found this picture of southport looks good from there

bushytas wrote:just found this picture of southport looks good from there

Well get a letter happening then!! I think e-mails isn't the answer we need written signatures to drop on her desk. If someone with better letter writing skills than me can put something together for a petition. E-mail it to me and i'll Get it passed around the state for signing. I'll get 1000 signatures in the first two weeks.

bushytas wrote:Dude it has to be worded a bit better than that it looks impressive but your use of words is incorrect.
But im in not way picking on you it’s just if we are going to do this it has to be right so as not to be laughed at and thrown in the bin with the rest of the aggressive letters.
And we will need more than one letter to send in.
It’s always good to have two blanket letters to fill there email boxes up with even more if Everone is able to

Whats aggressive about it? It just tells it as it is. Im sorry but im not a diplomatic, politically correct pussy whos to scared to say something incase I upset someone (oh no here I go again). I just tell it as i see it.

DR Frankenstine wrote:

bushytas wrote:just found this picture of southport looks good from there

Well get a letter happening then!! I think e-mails isn't the answer we need written signatures to drop on her desk. If someone with better letter writing skills than me can put something together for a petition. E-mail it to me and i'll Get it passed around the state for signing. I'll get 1000 signatures in the first two weeks.

Yes your right my friend i just had my lawyer friend on the net and sent it to her she said that the letter im doing if fine to a point but when emailed we might be breaking some act under spam mail so we are better to either print letters out and post them or do what you said get everyone to sign something

DR Frankenstine wrote:

bushytas wrote:just found this picture of southport looks good from there

Well get a letter happening then!! I think e-mails isn't the answer we need written signatures to drop on her desk. If someone with better letter writing skills than me can put something together for a petition. E-mail it to me and i'll Get it passed around the state for signing. I'll get 1000 signatures in the first two weeks.

I think a petition is the go to but it won't hurt to do the email thing the more feedback the they get the better.
Good your having a go but
Bushytas how would you feel about digging up a standard sort of petition as
well

Cheers Scott

Im on to it mate as we type

scott need ya last name mate for this so they can contact someone im also putting my name forward on it hope you dont mind

Ok all theres not going to be a post of a letter on here im going to see if i can get some of the 4wd shops in hobart to place it on their counter
ie kings tjm peter finch ect ect what do you think ???

ok all this will be the cover letter for the Petition
please donot post it to them go and sign the Petitions at one of the stores I will inform you of what ones have it tomorrow
cheers
Brendon


The Hon Judy Jackson MHA
Minister for Environment and Planning
Minister for Parks and Heritage
Level 10, State Offices
10 Murray Street
HOBART TAS 7000

Email:



Dear Minister

In regards to the preposed closure of the Southport Lagoon recreational area accessed by AVT and four wheel drive owners at Southport Lagoon we would like to express our concerns.

We believe that the closure of the Lagoon is unnecessary and have concerns that a decision was made to close the area with no consideration and little consultation given to clubs or individual users in this matter. The opportunity to raise our concerns in a public forum would be appreciated and address mutual issues would be an advantage.

We believe that the Southport Lagoon recreational area should stay open to all users during the allocated times of use stated by parks and wildlife and that it is necessary for us to raise public awareness of responsible use, care and clean up of the area, which will pose an advantage to recreational users and parks and wildlife management.

Yours sincerely


Signed Petitioners



President, 4WD Tasmania
PO Box 662, Glenorchy Tas 7010

Organisers
Scott -
Brendon -

bushytas wrote:ok all this will be the cover letter for the Petition
please donot post it to them go and sign the Petitions at one of the stores I will inform you of what ones have it tomorrow
cheers
Brendon


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I have a small Auto Electrical and 4X4 Workshop and would like a copy of the letter for people to sign?

Bruce (South West All Terrain)

on its way mate your one of my members from my web site i think so i will send it with that email address
Cheers
Brendon

bushytas wrote:on its way mate your one of my members from my web site i think so i will send it with that email address
Cheers
Brendon

That i am and not a bad site it is either


See you in the bush

Well all if it all goes well tomorrow we will have Petitions at peter finsh kings and up the other end of the state big thanks to peter
so start signing

And Don't Forget South West All Terrain at 46 Jindabyne road Kingston
Phone 0415 406 992

Make sure you let everyone know where abouts the petition can be signed. I'll be heading out to kings way tomorrow sometime anyway, so I'll definitely make a stop to sign.

Nice work putting this all together fellas, doing this sort of thing really gets peoples attention, and to have them know that there are people who care about the closure of Southport. If the local council or who evers decision it is thinks you know, whos gonna care, then they will close it without question. But when there is an angry mob of people who are protesting about the closure, they can't go ahead with it.

A list of places it should be at IF ITS NOT ASK WHY

KINGS TOWBARS MOONAH

PETER FINCH 4WD GLENORCHY

SOUTH WEST ALL TERRAIN
4X4 AND AUTO ELECTRICAL KINGSTON
46 Jindabyne road Kingston

TJA IN LAUNCESTON

NORTHWEST OFF ROAD IN DEVONPORT

AND I BELIEVE KINGS TOWBARS DEPOT IN LAUNCESTON

I am unsure by what time they will be available for signing as its up to our operations manager PETER A BIG THANKS MATE

SWAT wrote:

bushytas wrote:ok all this will be the cover letter for the Petition
please donot post it to them go and sign the Petitions at one of the stores I will inform you of what ones have it tomorrow
cheers
Brendon


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I have a small Auto Electrical and 4X4 Workshop and would like a copy of the letter for people to sign?

Bruce (South West All Terrain)

Gday Bruce, remember me form sp?
i saw a pic of your lux on its side whats the story mate? anyways i thought i might just point out to every one, ONLY SINGN THIS PERTISON ONCE.... IF ONE PERSON SIGNS THE THING TWICE IT IS THEN INVALAD...
Phil

bushytas wrote:A list of places it should be at IF ITS NOT ASK WHY

KINGS TOWBARS MOONAH

PETER FINCH 4WD GLENORCHY

SOUTH WEST ALL TERRAIN
4X4 AND AUTO ELECTRICAL KINGSTON
46 Jindabyne road Kingston

TJA IN LAUNCESTON

NORTHWEST OFF ROAD IN DEVONPORT

AND I BELIEVE KINGS TOWBARS DEPOT IN LAUNCESTON

I am unsure by what time they will be available for signing as its up to our operations manager PETER A BIG THANKS MATE

what about Tjm mega sotore (but remembe guys they dont serve latte's)
y dont u try for supper cheep glenchy repco..... lets try every where that wheelers hang out?

Gday Bruce, remember me form sp?
i saw a pic of your lux on its side whats the story mate? anyways i thought i might just point out to every one, ONLY SINGN THIS PERTISON ONCE.... IF ONE PERSON SIGNS THE THING TWICE IT IS THEN INVALAD...
Phil[/quote]


Yeah I have a few pics of the ute on it's side I put it over at the top of Slippery Hill on the way back in to Black Swan Camp site on Aus day this year I had an Issue with a rut and a lump and the ute.... .well it fell over so we got out took some pics Pulled it back over drove it back to camp and had another can, all was well

Another Story from South Port....... what would we do without the place

hey bushytas, can you email me a copy cause ive got heaps lined up to sign it from down south that dont make it to hobart when those places are open, alot of people in the huon valley 4x4 club want to sign and ive got a list as long as my arm for other people

cheers sean

p.s sold the wagon yet scotty???

bigpatrol89 wrote:hey bushytas, can you email me a copy cause ive got heaps lined up to sign it from down south that dont make it to hobart when those places are open, alot of people in the huon valley 4x4 club want to sign and ive got a list as long as my arm for other people

cheers sean

p.s sold the wagon yet scotty???

No mate no luck at all must be the price

you giong to put a Petition in the shop

Cheers Scott

bigpatrol89 wrote:hey bushytas, can you email me a copy cause ive got heaps lined up to sign it from down south that dont make it to hobart when those places are open, alot of people in the huon valley 4x4 club want to sign and ive got a list as long as my arm for other people

cheers sean

p.s sold the wagon yet scotty???

hi mate yeah i can send you one but it would be better if ya meet me tomorrow and i can give you a copy if you like i'm suppose to be down huonville tomorrow around 4ish
Cheers
Brendon