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setting up 4 bl holley on 4.4

Tech Talk for Rover owners.

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Post by 460cixy »

yeah ford pump is in t6ank there is an external vl turbo c ommie pump that will do fine
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Post by cloughy »

460cixy wrote:yeah ford pump is in t6ank there is an external vl turbo c ommie pump that will do fine
single point injection runs alot less pressure so maybe not, depends on how the fuel is regulated
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Post by 460cixy »

maybe some sort of after market reg?
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Post by Rangie Thing »

almost up and running just some kind of timming problem :?
pump running, injectors going has spark but it sounds like some one is hitting the pistons down with a hammer :bad-words:
but when i use the stand alone spark it runs (when i tip fuel down it's neck ) but injectors stop.
looks like i will have have another look at the ford book ( one thing i have found out is the dizzy turn different ways on the 6cly than the 8cly)
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Post by Rangie Thing »

IT'S ALIVE!!! :D :D :D but some strange stuff going on that i need to look at like running abit rich ( could be coolent sensor )
idle controll motor not working
had a timming gun to check timming and had to move all the spark plug leads clockwise one hole.
need to tidy up some wires now and fit some more hose clamps then work on a air cleaner for a road test :D
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Post by Loanrangie »

Excellent, glad to hear its working.
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Post by 460cixy »

thats tops just need lots of pics now
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Post by Rangie Thing »

will get some pics tomorrow just need heatsink for tfi, work on air cleaner.
i think i should replace plugs and leads too.
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Post by Rangie Thing »

went for a test drive today but somthing is not right yet as it floods a bit at idle and when driving if you put your foot down more than 10%.
and the idle control motor does not work, must be somthing not connected will also check oxy sensor too
will see what happens tomorrow
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Post by 460cixy »

well it works its just a case of fine tuneing . thats the time consumeing part
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Post by Loanrangie »

Update time ?
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Post by Rangie Thing »

will pickup last sensor on sat and will plug that in and start going over all the plugs with a meter and see what happens.
And if all that fails i just might take to the injection system with a large hammer and give it a reprogramming that it won't forget :bad-words: :x
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Post by Loanrangie »

:rofl: maybe MS will be on the cards ?
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Post by Rangie Thing »

update, I have done away with the idle motor and the throtle position switch and just running on the map sensor and coolent and air temp sensors ( it's running better but still over fueling.
next i am trying to trick the map sensor in thinking it has more vac than is there ( making it put less fuel in i hope )
the air temp and coolent temp sensors i will remove and replace them with resistors so if all goes well it should run on just a map sensor, compter,fuel pump and injectors.
finished moving the big stuff to new house with rangie so will have a look at it over the next few days.
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Post by Loanrangie »

I see Jaycar have an ms type ecu now but alot cheaper.
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Post by Ley269 »

Think I might have shown this before but anyway it's a pic of my P76 with Megasquirt EFI using a GM TBI from a 305 Chev. The reason I went GM TBI was number 1 it was cheap, there are heaps of parts available ex. US, it takes a standard Holley air cleaner (Engine bay looks almost stock), it's easily upgradeable, I could use the factory accelerator cable and it has an inbuilt fuel pressure regulator. I even ran it with the factory mechanical fuel pump using a swirlpot while I was testing!! It also meant that I could swap over to my Carter 4BBL in about 15 minutes if something went wrong. If I was going to do it again though I would just use a standard Chev TBI computer as the only problem I ever had was using the megasquirt, probably because of the low vacuum when using the Wilpower manifold as someone already mentioned. I also had problems because of the injector resistance but thats another story.
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Post by Rangie Thing »

That looks good makes mine look like i should give it a clean and paint.
I will have to keep a eye out for one of those setups i should have some pics soon when i dig up the camera .
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Post by cloughy »

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Post by Rangie Thing »

yep i have given up

i have it running abit better now but still no good on quick reving or under heavy load i was going to install a aftermarket ecu but will be going for something cheaper to run as i can not keep pouring money into my 4x4's as i have a house aswell now (the good old days have gone)
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Post by Rangie Thing »

So if anybody wants any bits you know where to find them
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Post by Loanrangie »

Rangie Thing wrote:So if anybody wants any bits you know where to find them
What, are you going to part it out ?
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Post by Rangie Thing »

yep or the whole thing as a fixer uper.
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Post by Loanrangie »

Pity, i reckon an MS ecu would have had you up and running quicker.
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Post by Rangie Thing »

had a look on the jaycar site but could not find any thing about a ms ecu i must have over looked it, will have another look tomorrow
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Post by 460cixy »

what? no way would i let it beat me just stick with it why buy a 4 banger pos : :cry:
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Post by Loanrangie »

Rangie Thing wrote:had a look on the jaycar site but could not find any thing about a ms ecu i must have over looked it, will have another look tomorrow
Not an MS , they call it a fuel controller i think, can also get a kit for a hand controller so you can tune on the fly, cant find any other info on it.
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