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hmmm might give it a go if my lux doesnt sell.

Ive been looking for a simple way to get alot of flex from a lux with a GQ front diff...

Thanks

send it into the new inventors.

fell free to ignor this if you couldn't be bothered explaining it more but i fail to see where the X bit comes from. to me it looks like to flipped radius arms with a panhard rod. must have something to do with the big lump of steel paralell with the diff i am guessing

hokey wrote:fell free to ignor this if you couldn't be bothered explaining it more but i fail to see where the X bit comes from. to me it looks like to flipped radius arms with a panhard rod. must have something to do with the big lump of steel paralell with the diff i am guessing

X is cross.

cross link. Links across the front .Links radius arms.

Chad

professor wrote:

hokey wrote:fell free to ignor this if you couldn't be bothered explaining it more but i fail to see where the X bit comes from. to me it looks like to flipped radius arms with a panhard rod. must have something to do with the big lump of steel paralell with the diff i am guessing

X is cross.

cross link. Links across the front .Links radius arms.

Chad

To save confusion how about "Bullhorn"??? (kinda looks like it from the front)

Agreed that "X-link" sounds a bit like a 4 link, with two "X" formed by the upper/lower links.

but it's eXtreme

how about dobbin link?

professor wrote:

hokey wrote:fell free to ignor this if you couldn't be bothered explaining it more but i fail to see where the X bit comes from. to me it looks like to flipped radius arms with a panhard rod. must have something to do with the big lump of steel paralell with the diff i am guessing

X is cross.

cross link. Links across the front .Links radius arms.

Chad

So the radius arms aren't attached to the diff at all? just the cross link?

hokey wrote:

professor wrote:

hokey wrote:fell free to ignor this if you couldn't be bothered explaining it more but i fail to see where the X bit comes from. to me it looks like to flipped radius arms with a panhard rod. must have something to do with the big lump of steel paralell with the diff i am guessing

X is cross.

cross link. Links across the front .Links radius arms.

Chad

So the radius arms aren't attached to the diff at all? just the cross link?

Sorry i thoght you were refering to the text.

The radius arms are attached at the rear of the diff and the front of the radius arms ar attached to the cross link then the cross link is attached to the diff through the pivot point.

Help

Chad

I spoke with Glen this afternoon and he said that the "standard kit" doesnt come with the radius arms... So for 800, all u get is the front piece of channel and the pivot linkage in the middle, is that right? How long is the front piece of channel across the front?

Can someone also post a pic of a standard radius arm from a 80series so i can have a look.

Thanks

justinshere wrote:I spoke with Glen this afternoon and he said that the "standard kit" doesnt come with the radius arms... So for 800, all u get is the front piece of channel and the pivot linkage in the middle, is that right? How long is the front piece of channel across the front?

Can someone also post a pic of a standard radius arm from a 80series so i can have a look.

Thanks

Thats correct

This is designed to fit up to a standard 80 or gu if you are fitting it to a hilux or a leaf sprung rig you will need to get a hold of some arms and some springs or get them custom made.

as for lenght between 800mm and 900mm

Chad

professor wrote:

hokey wrote:

professor wrote:

hokey wrote:fell free to ignor this if you couldn't be bothered explaining it more but i fail to see where the X bit comes from. to me it looks like to flipped radius arms with a panhard rod. must have something to do with the big lump of steel paralell with the diff i am guessing

X is cross.

cross link. Links across the front .Links radius arms.

Chad

So the radius arms aren't attached to the diff at all? just the cross link?

Sorry i thoght you were refering to the text.

The radius arms are attached at the rear of the diff and the front of the radius arms ar attached to the cross link then the cross link is attached to the diff through the pivot point.

Help

Chad

Understand how it all goes together now but i'll just have to work out why it's better.
Thanks for taking the time
-Calvin

Custom radius arms and steer arms.

Very bling , what material is that?

If only I could weld that well.

Nice work, I could see this working on the rear of some road race cars with beam type rear axles such as super sevens, which a tight for space.
Might even be good on the rear of Pajero's if the Panhard rod is not in the way.
Well done Guys.

just cruizin' wrote:Very bling , what material is that?

If only I could weld that well.

bizaloy low grade.

Zute wrote:Nice work, I could see this working on the rear of some road race cars with beam type rear axles such as super sevens, which a tight for space.
Might even be good on the rear of Pajero's if the Panhard rod is not in the way.
Well done Guys.

Thats what its all about The custom work.

Bring it on.

Being an X-link I thought it must be twice as good as a V-link

hokey wrote:

professor wrote:

hokey wrote:

professor wrote:

hokey wrote:fell free to ignor this if you couldn't be bothered explaining it more but i fail to see where the X bit comes from. to me it looks like to flipped radius arms with a panhard rod. must have something to do with the big lump of steel paralell with the diff i am guessing

X is cross.

cross link. Links across the front .Links radius arms.

Chad

So the radius arms aren't attached to the diff at all? just the cross link?

Sorry i thoght you were refering to the text.

The radius arms are attached at the rear of the diff and the front of the radius arms ar attached to the cross link then the cross link is attached to the diff through the pivot point.

Help

Chad

Understand how it all goes together now but i'll just have to work out why it's better.
Thanks for taking the time
-Calvin

normal radias arms setups are fixed to the diff at both points meaning all the flex has to be in the bushes. by fixing the front mounting points of the arms to the piviting doovalacky, that now does the flexing rather then the bushes. but still provides castor, and controls torque.

I like it. Hmmmm might have to have a think about that for the rear of the G... should help to fix the weight transfer

Oh, hang on... diff cover in way

Gwagensteve wrote:I like it. Hmmmm might have to have a think about that for the rear of the G... should help to fix the weight transfer

Oh, hang on... diff cover in way

We have thought of this and the problem is solved.If you want one give me a call.


Chad
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muppet_man67 wrote:

hokey wrote:

professor wrote:

hokey wrote:

professor wrote: X is cross.

cross link. Links across the front .Links radius arms.

Chad

So the radius arms aren't attached to the diff at all? just the cross link?

Sorry i thoght you were refering to the text.

The radius arms are attached at the rear of the diff and the front of the radius arms ar attached to the cross link then the cross link is attached to the diff through the pivot point.

Help

Chad

Understand how it all goes together now but i'll just have to work out why it's better.
Thanks for taking the time
-Calvin

normal radias arms setups are fixed to the diff at both points meaning all the flex has to be in the bushes. by fixing the front mounting points of the arms to the piviting doovalacky, that now does the flexing rather then the bushes. but still provides castor, and controls torque.

Well said

professor wrote:

muppet_man67 wrote:normal radias arms setups are fixed to the diff at both points meaning all the flex has to be in the bushes. by fixing the front mounting points of the arms to the piviting doovalacky, that now does the flexing rather then the bushes. but still provides castor, and controls torque.

Well said

I understand all of the above, and the limitations of the original design. But don't you still get some flexing in the bushes?

Perhaps I'm missing something: if you've got parallel arms tied together at three points on each, then twist the two arms, the three points are no longer the same distance apart. So the bushes on each end of the X-link must be flexing a little, although nowhere near as bad as in the original design. Any idea what the displacement is?

Scott

what do you ues for a pivot bearings or bushes?
and also whatn are they like onroad as i have a disco with gq diffs and they are finicky with steer shimmy

-Scott- wrote:

professor wrote:

muppet_man67 wrote:normal radias arms setups are fixed to the diff at both points meaning all the flex has to be in the bushes. by fixing the front mounting points of the arms to the piviting doovalacky, that now does the flexing rather then the bushes. but still provides castor, and controls torque.

Well said

I understand all of the above, and the limitations of the original design. But don't you still get some flexing in the bushes?

Perhaps I'm missing something: if you've got parallel arms tied together at three points on each, then twist the two arms, the three points are no longer the same distance apart. So the bushes on each end of the X-link must be flexing a little, although nowhere near as bad as in the original design. Any idea what the displacement is?

Scott

There is a small amount of displacement as you said not as bad as the original design. on mine the Cross link moves around 20mm 10mm up and 10mm down the side displacement you talk about on mine is probably around 4-5mm.

The bushes are still going to cop a hard time as with any 4x4 off road.

cooter wrote:what do you ues for a pivot bearings or bushes?
and also whatn are they like onroad as i have a disco with gq diffs and they are finicky with steer shimmy

What you want all my secrets

Are you conserned that this will increase your steering shimmy??

(steer shimmy)this may be that your caster is not setup correcty. are you running a large lift with standard settings on the diff???

Chad

Glad to say that the XLinks will be in stock ready for dispatch late next week

So place your orders

And for those who have paid keep an eye out on the mail (courier)



Chad
0418441064

PS I have lost all info in my inbox of OL. pm me again if i havent contacted you.

So are the xlink still in stock ready too go? Has anyone actully got it installed yet on a more standard truck? keen too see some pics of it in action on a patrol?

Any plans to do these for the front and rear of Disco II's?

I was just thinking the same Maggot. These would be awsome in the front and rear of the Disco2.

ZOOK60 wrote:So are the xlink still in stock ready too go? Has anyone actully got it installed yet on a more standard truck? keen too see some pics of it in action on a patrol?

Yep still have a few in stock.

Most of the XLinks have been custom jobs

Sorry no pics of a patrol yet.