Outer Limits 4x4 Board

getdirty wrote:One day Bruce you may supply some accurate information..... instead of all this YMMV!

Firstly you shouldn't need a brake or swerve test for an engineers, I didn't and don't know anyone else who has. Secondly who is really going to bother spending $600 on an engineers for a set of springs???????

So will you.. My car did need the brake and swerve test... Thats why I mentioned it... So did TB's who had his done 3 mths ago also by Kevin W... <-- Lots of

hottiemonster wrote:what happens if u dont get a engineers cert, even for 33x12.5x15?

You car is not roadworthy.

You Would have no insurance. If an insurance company wanted to be I'm gayer than aids! about it, they would laugh at you.

Most cops wouldnt notice, but some may if they are being anal...

bogged wrote:You car is not roadworthy.

You Would have no insurance. If an insurance company wanted to be I'm gayer than aids! about it, they would laugh at you.

Most cops wouldnt notice, but some may if they are being anal...

Has anyone EVER had this happen?

Do you have a registration sticker on your car Bruce? If so your car is also unroadworthy....

bogged wrote:
So will you.. My car did need the brake and swerve test... Thats why I mentioned it... So did TB's who had his done 3 mths ago also by Kevin W... <-- Lots of

Feel free to name any part of inaccurate information that I said was fact. I'm not going to fuck up a serious thread with stupid arguments, but please don't treat what you've been told or may have experienced as gospel.

Hmmm...... so Kevin W is only worthwhile using if you want to get BFG's engineered. I have the contact details of an engineer that in my experience does not request a brake or swerve test.

Perhaps get the car engineered elsewhere then get this guy to ammend the cert just for the tyres.

bogged wrote:

hottiemonster wrote:what happens if u dont get a engineers cert, even for 33x12.5x15?

You car is not roadworthy.

You Would have no insurance. If an insurance company wanted to be I'm gayer than aids! about it, they would laugh at you.

Most cops wouldnt notice, but some may if they are being anal...

so u need a engineers cert for 12.5 wide but what about 11.5 or 10.5?

what is the maximum tyre size which doesnt need engineers?

hottiemonster wrote:so u need a engineers cert for 12.5 wide but what about 11.5 or 10.5?

what is the maximum tyre size which doesnt need engineers?

If your car came with the Wide Wheel pack as standard, then 11.5's.

If it came with Cheeze cutters, the 750R16's then 10.5 I think,

AREA 54 Wrote:
These won't be necessary for the cert, although a SPOA kit may be needed. I have one in the shed, bought it for the mav never fitted it though, got it off Juilan_4x4, he said it would work.


Good idea.
Every coils sprung truck would benefit from a SPOA.
You Could make a lot of Monopoly money selling these kits.


Bazzle

yeah mine is wide wheel pack

i rang up insurance company and they are finding out info for me.

Also it is an XLT maverick shorty

i know that the maximum rim width is 8" but they have nothing on tyre size, so the person is going to research and let me know on sunday

what is SPOA?

hottiemonster wrote:what is SPOA?

Its for leaf springs, spring over axle...

SPOA ON GQ WTF?!?

I guess coils wouldn't work to well SUA

I know the limited $/ university thing, is the full time job you scored holidays or permanent

Personally mate I'd be doing the minimum in terms of cost to get the begger on 33's and saving for a locker/s. Will get you a LOT further than 2" bigger tyres and open diffs.

33's and locked diffs will be heaps capable till you finish uni in a few years

(If you have a locker and I missed that somewhere I'll eat my hat )

I dont know if it has been said b4 or not, but i know for sure that he has a rear air locker (i've been off roadin' with him)

marin

go the rear locker (ARB). worked well on deep creek 4. with only 31's and other tracks.

suspension will probably get put in hopefully not tomorrow but next monday. 3"

Most likely get dobinson coils and Koni long travel shocks. A combination to last ages.

then next would be to save up for tyres.

not 100% sure what i will get but still getting opinions and reading reviews.

might be keen for a saturday wheel somewhere to test out the new flex

i have not decided on where yet. either walhalla or gembrook area (not hard mud until the tyres come)

the date will be 20th december. but only going somewhere if the suspension is done.

from this point in time in order and other information

1st suspension , Koni shocks & dobinson coils, gearbox drop, and caster

2nd tyres - i think i want a combination of road and offroad so maybe xterrain or baja claw radial, JT2 have no life (and only offroad)

3rd winch

4th front locker

5th 2" body, guard triim

6th 35's

that the list now but might change. definately a winch b4 front locker

also i am only working full time over the tafe holidays, some money will be slow after the mid feb. so tyres and suspension before then.

i have been talking to a few more people about lifting the shorty, and i am not sure about 3" anymore. It seems to be too much hastle becasue of the vibration etc and can cost lots to fix it and the strain in the drivetrain in the longterm.

let me know if you are going walhalla way for your trip some mates and i would be interested, with the problem with the lift what about if you use crossmember spacers i think a mate had some in his shed or get the dimentions and make some.

i spoke to cheezy today and i have to wait about 1 month before he is able to jack my car up. bugger hey, well by then i will have some $$$ saved up so i would be getting the tyres very soon after.

By that time though my tyres now will be well and truely f**ked.

Hottie you going the 2" or 3" spring lift and body lift or just the spring

Dave

hottie...

Have a look at the aus4wd swb. they run a 3inch body lift and 3 inch coil springs in their mav/patrol.

www.aus4wd.com.au <- Look up the specs on 'our cars' to look up the mav specs. They run 35 inch tyres without dramas.

Cheers
Tom

Here are a couple of comparison photos.

The Black/gold SWB (Aus4wd's) runs 3" springs and 3" body with 35" X-Terrains with fairly heavily trimmed guards.

The White SWB runs 3" springs and 2" body with 35" X-Terrains and mildly trimmed guards.

The Red SWB (Ptrool) runs 4/5" springs and 3" body with 35" MTR's and standard guards.

Bonus points for whoever can name the two people in the right hand side of the first pic!

davejb wrote:Hottie you going the 2" or 3" spring lift and body lift or just the spring

Dave

just spring lift for now so i can wack some 33's on now with some good travel

getdirty wrote:Bonus points for whoever can name the two people in the right hand side of the first pic!

Sandy facing away from us?

getdirty wrote:Here are a couple of comparison photos.

The Black/gold SWB (Aus4wd's) runs 3" springs and 3" body with 35" X-Terrains with fairly heavily trimmed guards.

The White SWB runs 3" springs and 2" body with 35" X-Terrains and mildly trimmed guards.

The Red SWB (Ptrool) runs 4/5" springs and 3" body with 35" MTR's and standard guards.

Guess its all different when it comes to SWB's I stand corrected. - my mate's LWB runs 2 inch body and 3inch springs with 35's with very slight scraping at the rear 1/4. Guess tyre choice also plays a big part as well

Regards
Tom

A 3" spring light and some minor trimming will fit 35 BFGs with the only rubbing being on the inside of the rear wheel arch. With some pretty mean trimming of the guards 36s will fit with tonly the same rubbing as above.

MKPatrolGuy wrote:Sandy facing away from us?

Well done, or good guess..... now the other guy, also well known in the 4wd world, including outback challenge. Very typical stance in that pic.

GQ wrote:
Guess its all different when it comes to SWB's I stand corrected. - my mate's LWB runs 2 inch body and 3inch springs with 35's with very slight scraping at the rear 1/4. Guess tyre choice also plays a big part as well

Regards
Tom

Not really different, the Black SWB has had guards cut to fit 38's with 4" springs, and has done before with no scrubbing.

The white one has only trimming on the rear of the guards to stop scraping.

And mine scrapes the tyres on the rear of the rear guards (but only just, and only at full full flex which hardly ever happens in real world situations!).

getdirty wrote: and only at full full flex which hardly ever happens in real world situations!).

ya reckon?

so maby the way to go is to get 3" lift and trim and then wack some 35's on? 35x12.5x15 that is

hottiemonster wrote:so maby the way to go is to get 3" lift and trim and then wack some 35's on? 35x12.5x15 that is

Why not just get the suspension done first. Then see how it looks.

Remember if your current suspension is shagged, a 3 inch lift will lift it 4/5inch due to no sag.

Then have a look at your wallet. Stick 33's on and play. or keep the 31's for road, and get some JT2's in a 34inch for weekends.