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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:22 pm
by me3@neuralfibre.com
Dirty wrote:Good on you Paul for trying something different and posting it up for scrutiny. Also good on you for at lest attempting some testing, that is a lot more that some of the keyboard experts out there.

All this talk about people dying is great to try and get your point across. But at long as standard safety procedures and common sense are used while winching, this setup failing is no different to a any rope failure using ARB/TJM/etc equipment.

Granted that it is more likely for this to fail and I wouldn't be doing it on my rig.

I would have also thought for the price that alloy would have cost you, there would have been considerable change from building the same in steel, so the saving $$$ I am a little lost on. Normally if you want to do it on the cheap you build it in steel, everything is always very much more expensive in alloy.

- David.
Channel was about $40 from memory.
Easy to cut with a multi-material circular saw.

Paul

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:24 pm
by hjgq
Dude I just read under your posts that you owen a 105 cruiser turboed lifted and locked. WHY the hell would you waiset money on that crappy bullbar mod. If your worried about money do what I do and put $50 bucks or $20 bucks a week in a safe place and save up for stuff. I know it sucks and it takes ages but I would rather do that than face a corrinors inquire because you tryed to help someone out a it all went pair shape. personanly I don't care what you do to your self, but because of you stuppidity you could kill someone else. I realy hope you think about that and think it could be your kids or wife or someone you love. use your head and not the little one!!

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:01 pm
by chpd80
I really did NOT want to enter into this debate because I Love the whole concept of creating stuff yourself and the pride you get from doing it yourself, but, youve got to think about winching like a bomb. HUH?? well you picture your stuck and I mean really stuck 4b, or in your case wheels wedged and locked etc etc. then you add a winch that loads and loads and loads the whole system to the point of failure! thats kinda a bomb!

If your using plasma and that fails before your bullbar does it wont be a problem (everyone has seen plasma break) If its wire your using and it breaks, it makes a really cool noise and either springs back to the tree or comes through your back or front window smashing it etc etc etc. Not real great,
If your bullbar or something similar comes off, you've just screwed yours and probably someone elses day.
And if there are kids, wives, friends that get hurt then you would deserve all the charges coming your way.

Make up sidesteps, rearbars, other s#@t but dont play games with winches, It will end in tears.

Keep up the fabricating in other areas though, Its great seeing different home made stuff hanging off 4b's (some good, some hmmm interesting) :lol:

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:59 pm
by mike_nofx
Not a matter of IF it will fail. Just a matter of when.

And WHEN it happens, hopefully the only injuries sustained are to your truck.

Please dont breed.

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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:38 pm
by mike_nofx
chimpboy wrote:Here is someone else's diagram:

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That is how I've always understood it to work. The equal/opposite reaction concern you had is covered there as you can see.
The pic on the right side looks like a wang

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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:45 pm
by TheOtherLeft
mike_nofx wrote:
chimpboy wrote:Here is someone else's diagram:

Image

That is how I've always understood it to work. The equal/opposite reaction concern you had is covered there as you can see.
The pic on the right side looks like a wang
ROFL. My wife just saw the pic and said that too.

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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:46 pm
by RED60
mike_nofx wrote:
chimpboy wrote:Here is someone else's diagram:

Image

That is how I've always understood it to work. The equal/opposite reaction concern you had is covered there as you can see.
The pic on the right side looks like a wang
It might look like YOUR wang man....... :finger: :finger:

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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:35 pm
by toaddog
mike_nofx wrote:
chimpboy wrote:Here is someone else's diagram:

Image

That is how I've always understood it to work. The equal/opposite reaction concern you had is covered there as you can see.
The pic on the right side looks like a wang
Praytell why after over 3 years you dug this up again?

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:58 am
by me3@neuralfibre.com
toaddog wrote:
mike_nofx wrote:
chimpboy wrote:Here is someone else's diagram:

Image

That is how I've always understood it to work. The equal/opposite reaction concern you had is covered there as you can see.
The pic on the right side looks like a wang
Praytell why after over 3 years you dug this up again?
I agree. It's at least another year off cracking and killing us all. Wait a bit longer before grave digging posts.

Paul

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:55 am
by RAY185
A wang with ball cancer?

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:01 pm
by 80's_delirious
it's a wang shooting IONs at the wall :crazyeyes:

Ray did you draw this?

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:48 pm
by TheBigBoy
Bah ha ha ha, theres always 1 in a bunch

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:24 pm
by mike_nofx
toaddog wrote:
mike_nofx wrote:
chimpboy wrote:Here is someone else's diagram:

Image

That is how I've always understood it to work. The equal/opposite reaction concern you had is covered there as you can see.
The pic on the right side looks like a wang
Praytell why after over 3 years you dug this up again?
Following purpose ii. and iv.
And follows all 4 rules

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic ... 0&t=172807

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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:43 am
by longlux
mike_nofx wrote: Following purpose ii. and iv.
And follows all 4 rules

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic ... 0&t=172807
Only in chit not in tech :roll:

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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:03 am
by mike_nofx
Well it doesnt say that! Make it rule 5

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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:47 pm
by GBC
Just back from the SSS winch challenge at LCMP. Dude you could make a squillion out of this. All the serious players are keen to lose as much weight as you up front.
Campfire talk was all about getting some wicked snatch strap effect off the hybrid crossmember during winching to gain seconds.
:finger:

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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:12 pm
by ToNkA
RAY185 wrote:A wang with ball cancer?
I can say, it does!

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:39 am
by GRIMACE
ToNkA wrote:
RAY185 wrote:A wang with ball cancer?
I can say, it does!
Image

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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:47 am
by 80lsy gq
me3@neuralfibre.com wrote:
I agree. It's at least another year off cracking and killing us all. Wait a bit longer before grave digging posts.

Paul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C_oNMH0GTk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:27 pm
by Shadow
This is how i did it on my 100series OEM Alloy "winch Compatible" bar.

Baught a universal winch cradle off ebay, $95 delivered.

then made it fit!

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Shot at 2011-12-10
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Shot at 2011-12-10

i used 5mm plate on the ends, and there is 3 x 8.8 bolts in either end bolting through the bull-bar chassis bracket.

The bolts go through fairlead, through alloybar, through steel cradle, and into the winch. all sandwiched together

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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:11 pm
by 80's_delirious
Dude, that thing must weigh a tonne, specially with all those bolts in it. :finger: