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Sounds insane.
I like it!

why does everyone think these will be heavy as fark??
They will be lighter then an original mog complete diff.
We are building an as strong as we can build diff cause we think we can.
Using the 4.7 series centre section we are getting the gearing we want at a budget price. Insted of buying dana 60s and then gears we can get the sals for 200 a pop. We are reducing the pinion length and we can put the centre where we want. The only downside is we are sacrificing 30mm in clearance on the pumkin. But we can shave it so yeah aas far as we see it all we win.

It will be as heavy as fark. If it were me, I'd be using uber lightweight Jimny axles with mog portals on the end. Now that would be the ultimate! I'd call them either Jogs or Mognys.


Just takin the piss - don't sweat it, it's an awesome assembly.

The weight is nice and low anyway.

nottie wrote:why does everyone think these will be heavy as fark??
They will be lighter then an original mog complete diff.
We are building an as strong as we can build diff cause we think we can.
Using the 4.7 series centre section we are getting the gearing we want at a budget price. Insted of buying dana 60s and then gears we can get the sals for 200 a pop. We are reducing the pinion length and we can put the centre where we want. The only downside is we are sacrificing 30mm in clearance on the pumkin. But we can shave it so yeah aas far as we see it all we win.

I would bet money that everyone who has posted about the weight of the sals either:

(a) hasn't lifted one
(b) hasn't lifted a 404 axle and/or dfsa-oesn't know they are double tubed and heavy as lead
(c) thinks Sals are like D60s in weight

No, I'm just talking out of my ass. I've never seen any of these axles in my life.

Ben, I would love to see you try to lift any of the axles in question.....

Not sure what the use of a 10:1 axle ratio is either, but like I say, to each their own.

And don't try to con me that this is cheap. Sure, you have cheap Sals and MOG portals to start with. But then there are...

- 35 spline, Dana 60 Detroits
- 35 spline custom shafts
- CV joints strong enough to match this setup.
- Whatever you are doing at the hub end, adapt to different wheel pattern, disc brakes, etc...

There are no cheap, bulletproof axle builds. If there are, I'd love to be proved wrong.

red90 wrote: Ben, I would love to see you try to lift any of the axles in question.....
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The axle in question is a Series 3 4.7:1 salisbury - which I have lifted. I have one at home which I will throw on the scales when I have a minute.

Of course hybrid axles cost $$$. And a mog 9 would be a better option. However I would bet money that this axle will come out a lot cheaper than a mog 9.

The housing + R&P will be <AU$200 each
D60 detroits are ~US$600 each
The ballpark 35spl axle costs I have heard from Nottie are:

Don't know what CV/UJ/DC setup they are using?
The rest of the stuff you need to do anyway.

Of course there is no cheap bulletproof axle... However some are cheaper than others.

red90 wrote: Ben, I would love to see you try to lift any of the axles in question.....

I lifted my spare axle this arvo to put it on the scales.

SIII 4.7:1 sals. ~55kg
(complete centre and casing flange-flange - no brakes, hubs, spindles or shafts).

edit - and the tubes are 5.6mm wall thickness.

Nottie / Micka - how heavy is the 404 centre w axle tubes?

Ben i will weigh them as soon as i can but i bet more then 55 kgs We had to get mickas bobcat to lift 1 complete diff and it took both of us to lift a housing with the centre in it.
Mog 9s can cost anything up to 20grand a set We have worked out that we will moret then half that cost with the sals.
The CV arangment will be the standed Mog 45 degree items as whats in the porteled hub steer assembly.
For such a custom diff assembly with 45d steer 10.1 gearing clearance on the centre and the strength these will be a awsome bloody strong and cheep assembly.


We didnt even think about using a zook centre assembly
The weight we would save i think micka and myself need to rethink the diff setup again.

Anyone got any jimmny diffs going cheep

ISUZUROVER wrote:

red90 wrote: Ben, I would love to see you try to lift any of the axles in question.....

I lifted my spare axle this arvo to put it on the scales.

SIII 4.7:1 sals. ~55kg
(complete centre and casing flange-flange - no brakes, hubs, spindles or shafts).

edit - and the tubes are 5.6mm wall thickness.

Nottie / Micka - how heavy is the 404 centre w axle tubes?

I bought one today. I took 4 to lift a complete SIII Sals. Bitch of a thing then smashed the pallet in my trailer!

slunnie you must have tryed to lift the whole car with it. or your weak as piss
2 people should be able to lift one easy

nottie wrote:slunnie you must have tryed to lift the whole car with it. or your weak as piss
2 people should be able to lift one easy

What he said. As well as toughening up your oil of olay hands, I think you and your (girly?) mates need to go to the gym more often...

2 people can lift a 110 axle. A SIII axle is lighter....

nottie wrote: We had to get mickas bobcat to lift 1 complete diff and it took both of us to lift a housing with the centre in it.

Should have just called Bartso around for a beer, we didnt need a bobcat with him there

nottie wrote:

from AULRO

Slunnie wrote::lol2:


These Oil of Olay hands are getting blisters living out here! :mad:

Slunnie wrote:

ISUZUROVER wrote:

red90 wrote: Ben, I would love to see you try to lift any of the axles in question.....

I lifted my spare axle this arvo to put it on the scales.

SIII 4.7:1 sals. ~55kg
(complete centre and casing flange-flange - no brakes, hubs, spindles or shafts).

edit - and the tubes are 5.6mm wall thickness.

Nottie / Micka - how heavy is the 404 centre w axle tubes?

I bought one today. I took 4 to lift a complete SIII Sals. Bitch of a thing then smashed the pallet in my trailer!

ahaha harden up slunnie, they a piss of poop with 2 people, yes i've lifted them, while a full 404 housing, etc was dam heavy with 3 people (including bartso, actually boof did you even have any weight?)

You lot are assholes.

I needed extra oil of olay with skin repair after lifting those babies!

now, now no need to be like that......

hey slunnie, my partner SHE just told me that woollies has a special on oil of something at the mo?

wasn't in the local bottle shops catalogue so i didn't understand want she mean't?

Slunnie wrote:

ISUZUROVER wrote:

red90 wrote: Ben, I would love to see you try to lift any of the axles in question.....

I lifted my spare axle this arvo to put it on the scales.

SIII 4.7:1 sals. ~55kg
(complete centre and casing flange-flange - no brakes, hubs, spindles or shafts).

edit - and the tubes are 5.6mm wall thickness.

Nottie / Micka - how heavy is the 404 centre w axle tubes?

I bought one today. I took 4 to lift a complete SIII Sals. Bitch of a thing then smashed the pallet in my trailer!

Nottie and I went to grab the Salisbury diffs today.

I'm thinking that you've been misspelling your name, Simon. Are you sure it isn't Simone?

I picked up the complete housing by myself with hardly any effort. Maybe your mates were standing ontop of it when you were trying to lift it?

Anyway...these MogSals are going to be sexy bitches.

hey micka like the front of your rangie might copy it on my rangie if you dont mind. what you doing with your diffs is cool good ingenuity we cut and tuck allsorts of things over here . heavy diffs are good the more unsprung weight the better, helps to keep the wheels on the ground .

Jefro if you need more pics of the front end and stage pics of when we did it just let us know as we have more im shore.
Also any info as to what we cut out of the body.
The way we did it Once its done you cant go back.

hey nottie pic would good thanks mate

heavy is good to a point.....especially if only low speed. In the end lighter is always better if the strenght is retained.....

ISUZUROVER wrote:SIII 4.7:1 sals. ~55kg
(complete centre and casing flange-flange - no brakes, hubs, spindles or shafts).

Nissan H260 LSD Centre ALONE 56kgs

WICKED wrote:

ISUZUROVER wrote:SIII 4.7:1 sals. ~55kg
(complete centre and casing flange-flange - no brakes, hubs, spindles or shafts).

Nissan H260 LSD Centre ALONE 56kgs

Cheers - anyone weighed the mog centre yet???

I notice John (red90) has been silent for a while...

def90 wrote:

Slunnie wrote:

ISUZUROVER wrote:

red90 wrote: Ben, I would love to see you try to lift any of the axles in question.....

I lifted my spare axle this arvo to put it on the scales.

SIII 4.7:1 sals. ~55kg
(complete centre and casing flange-flange - no brakes, hubs, spindles or shafts).

edit - and the tubes are 5.6mm wall thickness.

Nottie / Micka - how heavy is the 404 centre w axle tubes?

I bought one today. I took 4 to lift a complete SIII Sals. Bitch of a thing then smashed the pallet in my trailer!

ahaha harden up slunnie, they a piss of poop with 2 people, yes i've lifted them, while a full 404 housing, etc was dam heavy with 3 people (including bartso, actually boof did you even have any weight?)

ISUZUROVER wrote:

WICKED wrote:

ISUZUROVER wrote:SIII 4.7:1 sals. ~55kg
(complete centre and casing flange-flange - no brakes, hubs, spindles or shafts).

Nissan H260 LSD Centre ALONE 56kgs

Cheers - anyone weighed the mog centre yet???

I notice John (red90) has been silent for a while...

Will try to today Ben
(thats if the big ass thing doesnt brake the glass top scales )

Slunnie wrote:You lot are assholes.

I needed extra oil of olay with skin repair after lifting those babies!

sure the oil of olay's not for self pleasure?


They don't weigh that much.

dobbo wrote:

Slunnie wrote:You lot are assholes.

I needed extra oil of olay with skin repair after lifting those babies!

sure the oil of olay's not for self pleasure?


They don't weigh that much.

maybe its for the guy he has in a hole in his basement....... it puts the lotion on its skin.............

ISUZUROVER wrote:I notice John (red90) has been silent for a while...

I was going to post, but what is the point. I said you could not lift an axle, you went and lifted an empty housing........ You knew what I meant by the word "axle". Like I said before, to each their own. For ME, it makes too heavy an axle assembly for a light truck. You need to realize that where I live guys build big trucks, with serious axles and serious power. Guys that blow MOG boxes up for fun. This type of axle suits those sorts of trucks....

BUT, that is just MY personal preference. Nothing wrong with this axle and build.