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No ECU if you just running carby, just gotta get motor tuned to run with forced induction.
No additonal sensors required if just carby too. If you are taking it to get tuned somewhere, they will deal with carby settings and timming. Remember with a stock motor and carby, you will be limited to the amount of boost and power you will be able to make, without destroying the motor.
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stumped wrote:doesn't blower have pretty much the same boost all the way thru the rev range?
No. It gets hotter the harder it revs and loses volumetric efficiency the faster it spins. Obviously the lower boost you run the less dropoff you're going to have through the revs. I have heard of people getting good results with water-methanol sprayers infront of their s/c to cool both the air charge and s/c down. At too much revs/boost the teflon coated rotors start to delaminate.
benjamin78au wrote:do they need an intercooler on these sort of chargers or does it just help lower the possiblity of brokern bits, hmm like detonation.
As above. They don't need one but a small one would help. But it would add slightly to lag.
And remember, PSI is just a measure of airpressure between the s/c and your chamber, not airflow or efficiency. Sometimes a denser, colder charge is better than a much hotter one at slightly higher PSI.
Pfft, lag. There is no lag on a supercharger. It is not possible. S/C is there from go (well on the 4AGZE it kicks on as soon as there is a reading of 8mmHG in the manifold). Lag is a bad term anyway. What you are talking about is "boost thresh hold" of the turbo/motor combination. It needs to overcome the "weight" of the components etc to make boost. So the SC12 S/C off a 4AGZE would be the go because it already has a electric clutch (not sure about Subaru???)..also if you want more you could always go a SC14 off a 1GGZE...
im getting a call back from a bloke this week, hes getting my a price on a sc12(4agze).
ive got the aircon bracket already on, just need the charger to mod the brackets, wondering what else i need(boost gauge), how will i know what size pulley i need?
Hopefully the jimny engine will handle 5 psi ok
85 LWB w. FRP Canopy
Ca18det conversion in progress, Vit PS, RUF,
6.5:1's, 33x12.5 Bfg's, custom front and rear bars.
all you can do it note the diamiter of a stock pulley on the 16 valve and compare it with the zook one. smaller or larger will change boost in the region of 3-5 psi. ive heard its not a good idea to run sc12's past 10psi,
all you can do it note the diamiter of a stock pulley on the 16 valve and compare it with the zook one. smaller or larger will change boost in the region of 3-5 psi. ive heard its not a good idea to run sc12's past 10psi,
you are absolutely correct. I had one of these motors in an AE86 Sprinter. Fantastic S/C set up. Couldnt fault it. Oh btw, just make sure you check the oil level frequently because the oil aint cheap from toyota.
How much did you mannage to pick you SC12 up for Spike_Zook and where abouts did you find it?
I used to be involved with Jimnyworld.com and a bloke in Toowoomba fitted a turbo to his Jimny and blow the guts out of it at 6psi. Just something to keep in mind. I've spoken to a experienced mechanic about this topic and he has suggested that about 3psi would be ample. Just a thought.
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haha, i just dont know which is inlet and which is outlet, ive only got that picture to go by, hopefully the one on the left is inlet and the other one on the right it outlet(to inlet manifold) as that would be perfect, could have a left side snorkle too
85 LWB w. FRP Canopy
Ca18det conversion in progress, Vit PS, RUF,
6.5:1's, 33x12.5 Bfg's, custom front and rear bars.
when i got my charger i just chucked an electric drill on the pulley, youll feel it for sure, but as gutless said, put your hand over one side and should feel it suck.
beally wrote:when i got my charger i just chucked an electric drill on the pulley, youll feel it for sure, but as gutless said, put your hand over one side and should feel it suck.
sc14= after market ecu/ crazy pulley ratios.
A microtech LT8 should run it, and will cost about $1450 including hand controller. Expect to pay about $500-$1000 for tuning, depending on what info you can supply the Microtech dealer with in reference to a base map.
You will also need to lower compression dramatically I suspect.
i think the SC14 will be too big. The SC12 will be ample for your use, remember the SC14 was off a 2L inline 6, just a TAD bigger than a 1.3L 4. Too much boost and you'll fry the internals in no time!
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not only high boost, but the speed of the boost and the strain the 1.3 will have turning the fucker.
if your going to be fiddling with aftermarket ecu's and the like then id be going the turbo route for sure, only reason i didnt is cause i didnt have the money/time/effort of the after market ecu.
EDIT: I was told by the wreckers that I could use an sc14 on my falcon. (4l i6)
Spike_Sierra wrote:im getting a call back from a bloke this week, hes getting my a price on a sc12(4agze).
ive got the aircon bracket already on, just need the charger to mod the brackets, wondering what else i need(boost gauge), how will i know what size pulley i need?
Hopefully the jimny engine will handle 5 psi ok
How's the jimny engine/supercharger combo coming along? Any progress or difficulties that you've come across?
i had a supercharger on my zook the power is amazing
8500km on a rebuit motor not so great. piston pieces numbered 14 on second rebuild and a buggerd head
blower didnt go back on
so if going down this path do more homework than did
I heard they only work with hiclones and magnets on your fuel line.
Steve.
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I heard they only work with hiclones and magnets on your fuel line
Hahahaha... sarcasm is not dead.
Point taken. Dont waste your money!
They would only be a crappy stop-gap anyway - real power would be from installing a turbo/supercharger, but that costs the $$$...
Didnt the Swift GTi motor come with a bolt on turbo?
Would swapping in one of those (same engine mounts) be the same cost / cheaper than a custom s/c job?
I *think* this is a myth based on the fact there is a turbo version of the swift in Japan that was sold prior to /alongside the GTI.
This engine is an F10A turbo (996cc) and shares no parts (except distributor) with the G13.
I believe this engine popped up in the WagonR+ in japan too.
Not a viable swap IMHO
Steve.
[quote="greg"] some say he is a man without happy dreams, or that he sees silver linings on clouds and wonders why they are not platinum... all we know, is he's called the stevie.[/quote]
Gwagensteve wrote:I *think* this is a myth based on the fact there is a turbo version of the swift in Japan that was sold prior to /alongside the GTI.
This engine is an F10A turbo (996cc) and shares no parts (except distributor) with the G13.
I believe this engine popped up in the WagonR+ in japan too.
Not a viable swap IMHO
Steve.
might be getting your info mixed up.
-The swifts had a turbo 3 cyl g10
-then wagon r was a k10a turbo, limited run most are na or k6a kei class (a drool alot on suzuki.co.jp)
The turbo on the swift is probably the same as the charade since they displace the exact same cc of 993cc and that both manufacturers use IHI turbos. Might be easier to source one from canada or usa where they are still available .
With the extra cc's of the 1.3l it would spool sooner giving power at lower revs and with a wastegate easy off some of the juice in the higher revs
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Spike_Sierra wrote:im getting a call back from a bloke this week, hes getting my a price on a sc12(4agze).
ive got the aircon bracket already on, just need the charger to mod the brackets, wondering what else i need(boost gauge), how will i know what size pulley i need?
Hopefully the jimny engine will handle 5 psi ok
How's the jimny engine/supercharger combo coming along? Any progress or difficulties that you've come across?
Cheers
Nick
to tell you the truth i havnt done much at all.
i made up some brackets that arent finished and got all the bits and pieces to make an adjustable map sensor(as jimny map sensors cant read positive pressure) Thats all ive done as i started a uni degree and have had squat all time and money to push forward. i need to work out a way to switch off the adjustable map sensor the same time i switch off the supercharger. Im waiting for MART to finish his supercharger build up to see which type of adjustable boost guage he used as i cant find any on ebay.
but one day.
85 LWB w. FRP Canopy
Ca18det conversion in progress, Vit PS, RUF,
6.5:1's, 33x12.5 Bfg's, custom front and rear bars.
The site I was on was unclear as to whether the turbo 1.0 in the swift was 4 or 3 cylinder.
I was aware that the WagonR+ ran a turbo K10A (4 cylinder if I recall) and these are not power limited as they run around 100hp.
Either way, I wouldn't think the wagon R 1.0 turbo would flow well enough on a 1.3 as from what I have seen suzuki size their turbos quite small for the application, based on thier 660cc engines.
Steve.
[quote="greg"] some say he is a man without happy dreams, or that he sees silver linings on clouds and wonders why they are not platinum... all we know, is he's called the stevie.[/quote]
There are electrically driven turbos available (Bosch) however
they are OEM only, VERY pricey, draw significant electrical power and probably would be only available as a spare part if at all with a looooong lead time.
I didn't think that was worth mentioning Ross as it was likely to add weight to the garbage available on Ebay, bu I did hear that leaf blowers are fully sick and add heaps of HP
Steve.
[quote="greg"] some say he is a man without happy dreams, or that he sees silver linings on clouds and wonders why they are not platinum... all we know, is he's called the stevie.[/quote]
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