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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 8:32 pm
by Bush65
Moto Guzzi ran a 500cc V8 in 1957. Rider was Keith Cambell (Aussie). Top speed was 185 MPH.

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 8:59 pm
by RUFF
madrangie wrote:easy way to tella 4.4 is there is no outer row of head bolds to the block .. unless someone has drilled and taped them and put rover head on it . There should only be one row of head bolts visiable on a 4.4 ..


Cool thanks mate i think this may just be a 4.4 then i just have to go look at it again.

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2002 10:34 am
by bj on roids
tony, if you DONT want that 4.4 i will take it, im on a line for a 3.5 and a 4litre, but i am sorta after something with a little more cubes!!

my truck is heavier, and i need to compensate for something ;)

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2002 3:55 pm
by N*A*M
Rover Supra Bellhousing kit $795 each ($745 each for 5), from Triumph Rover Spares.

I'm still pricing up the Dellow Automotive adaptor but they won't do a bulk discount.

So where is this $400 adaptor? And Ruff, how much would the custom one cost roughly?

Rover Bellhousing

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2002 6:07 pm
by LOCKY
One of my customers in Melton, Melbourne has a Dellow bellhousing, will sell for $400.

Let me know 0417 552 629

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2002 8:01 pm
by Bush65
madrangie wrote:easy way to tella 4.4 is there is no outer row of head bolds to the block .. unless someone has drilled and taped them and put rover head on it . There should only be one row of head bolts visiable on a 4.4 ..


Also Leyland 4.4 engine No is stamped on block near bellhousing, behind LH cylinder head. Rover engine No is on LH side of block - look between middle branches of exhaust manifold.

Rover 4.6 has same head bolt pattern as Leyland 4.4, but casting is different (no possibility to drill and tap for extra bolts as can be done on 4.4). I understand the extra bolts were deleted on 4.6 to overcome head gasket problem.

BTW, the Leyland 4.4 was the basis for the F1 world champion, Repco Brabam 3 litre motor, built by Phil Erving.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2002 7:15 am
by RUFF
Thanks John and Bj i am going to look at this thing again on sat and if it ios a 4.4 i will buy it but if im right there may be 3 more 4.4s there available as well but will check for you while im there.

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2002 8:36 am
by bj on roids
RUFF wrote:Thanks John and Bj i am going to look at this thing again on sat and if it ios a 4.4 i will buy it but if im right there may be 3 more 4.4s there available as well but will check for you while im there.


what sort of $$?
i am very interested, especially, i need from flywheel and starter motor (forwards) to water pump (if they have a water pump on the front)

i have tried to ring you, but what i may do is talk to you saturday night!

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2002 7:15 pm
by RUFF
$$$ i will have to find out but i will be there Sat night so i will let you know then.

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 4:49 pm
by RUFF
As you know Rob there was no more 4.4s there.
But i bougth the only 4.4 with a complete hilux conversion and an LPG conversion for $750 with 3 months warrenty :lol:

And thanks to the guys here i knew what to look for and you were all right the missing headstuds werent there,the engine number was on the back and it has a carbed manifold and tin tappit covers. But once you look at both side by side the biggest difference is noticed. The V is at the same angle but the block is about 1inch taller.

One question to the rover guys though. Why do people fit 3.5 cylinder heads to the 4.4 is it to improve performance or are the 4.4 heads just hard to replace?

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 4:59 pm
by v8grunt
3.5 heads to 4.4. higher compession ratio and they tend not to overhead and something to do with torque produced at lower rpm. Ralph knows the reasons why. I think sam has his number in tassie.

glen

5 litres of FORD grunt will fix it for you. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 5:01 pm
by RUFF
v8grunt wrote:5 litres of FORD grunt will fix it for you. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :shock: :shock: :shock:


Will that make ME the fastest 4wd in Australia then? :lol: :lol:

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 5:03 pm
by v8grunt
yahoo :? it will fly if u fit wings. :evil: :evil: :evil:

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 6:13 pm
by Cheezy4x4
No Ruff :lol:
What does a Gen 111 weigh, I know my chev is pretty light with the alloy heads but a Gen 111 has a alloy block, hollow cam ect, ect.

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 6:26 pm
by RUFF
Yeah but can i buy a Gen III for $750 with LPG :roll:

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 6:31 pm
by Cheezy4x4
Thats what my SS is worth, but not on LPG. So NO. :lol:

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 10:42 pm
by Dozoor
Chezzy got pics of your new mav setup yet?

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 11:12 pm
by Cheezy4x4
Will take some shots next week.

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 11:35 pm
by Dozoor
cool.

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2002 12:34 pm
by madrangie
i am not a expert on this but the rover heads breath better then the 4.4 and run a rocker shaft , to fit these properly you have to drill a oil gallery in the rear of the block to feel oil up to the rocker shafts . You will have to shave some out of the head as the comp will be to high .