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Help PLEASE.... the zook wont idle

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:15 pm
by junior80
hey guys

I replaced the spark plugs today and that half sorted the problem.

It started out when you first turned the engine on it would idle for about 30 seconds then die. turn it on again the same as many times over as you like. then it would turn on and idle nicely but if you rev it up to 5grand then take your fott off the go pedal it would die. now if you do that while rolling down the road you can pop the clutch and bump start it and drive but as soon as you put the clutch back in it will die again.

so it seems that if you don't rev it up to th number 5 on the rev counter it will go back to idle nicely. if you pas the 5 mark you have to stop the car, wait a sewcond then turn it back on and it would be fine.

can anyone help? I'm going wheeling in it tomorrow and it's going to be a pain in the arse.


thanks guys


oh yeah it's a 1.3 carby 89 model

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:41 pm
by Red_Zook
get some carbi clean... spray the farker out of every thing in your carbi...
if that works.. well its fixed

if noy take the cleaner pipe off..

REV THE MICKEY OUT OF IT...
and as you back of get a rag.. and put it over the top of the carbi..(as it is dieing down)
the vacume "should"
suck all the shit though the jets etc..
if not.. i dunno pm me and i will give you my mob number can see if ican help you

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:51 pm
by CWBYUP
What are the points and rotor cap like ?

I would start there.

Nick

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:52 pm
by junior80
I'll go try it now. dunno about revving ht tits off it now tho. if the throttle body cleaner doesn't work I'll call ya in the morning. PM sent

Thanks

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:54 pm
by junior80
and which one is the cleaner pipe and what's it do?


and where is the fuel filter in this thing. too dark to go searching if you can tell me straight away


thanks

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:58 pm
by Red_Zook
junior80 wrote:and which one is the cleaner pipe and what's it do?


and where is the fuel filter in this thing. too dark to go searching if you can tell me straight away


thanks
chassi rail above rear diff.. drivers side..
should be anyway

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:05 pm
by junior80
and the cleaner pipe? what do you mean by that?



PS i'm a zook noob sortof

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:08 pm
by Red_Zook
junior80 wrote:and the cleaner pipe? what do you mean by that?



PS i'm a zook noob sortof
the bit that attaches to the top of the carbi.. inbetween the carb and air cleaner.....
ring me if need be.. but im just about to go out!

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:08 pm
by CWBYUP
Where you live at ?

Also just check the fuel pump is pumping consistantly.

If your not sure how to do it, take the fuel line off from where it joins the carby and turn it over for like 30 secs, pumping the fuel into a bottle.

It should be a consistant flow if its not you either have a blocked filter or a stuffed fuel pump. If you any major problem let me know as i have a complete manifold and carby along with a heap of other shit here but not sure of the state of it.

Cheers nick

If you want to call me just PM me and I'll send you my number.

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:10 pm
by Red_Zook
oh its a competition now lol
Pick me Pick me
ring me LOL
shit in carbi $50 on it!
either in vac lines or jets
or ventrilicals (sp)

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:16 pm
by junior80
live on north shore in sydney

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:16 pm
by CWBYUP
I'm not a betting man but I'd say $10- its the dizzy as he never cleaned it from the last time he was in Rivo with us.

The only reason I said ring me was if he's not to far away I'd go and give him a hand. :lol:

But yeah I'll take $10 bucks off you if you want. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I would actually bet ajainst my self with a zook cause it always the last thing you check. :bad-words:

You better let us know what it is now.

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:18 pm
by CWBYUP
junior80 wrote:live on north shore in sydney
Bit to far to come for a drive you'd have it fixed by the time i got there !

So what are we up checking ? Tell me its the dizzy please

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:30 pm
by junior80
I'll go check it now.

,,, wanna come for a wheel with me tomorrow down the northern beaches? track is very similar to what you get up at the wattagans

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:35 pm
by CWBYUP
Nah the GQ needs a bit of work it got a shake I need to sort out and the new zook wont be registered until end of the week.

Thanks any way.

Nick

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:39 pm
by junior80
yeah just gave the points in the dizzy a hit with a bit of emry paper so they are nice and shiny, just gotta wait till morning so i can rev the crap out of it and not piss off the neighbours..


Red_Zook gave me some good advice, I'll try a few things he told me and see how it goes.

Tom

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:22 pm
by lay80n
Zook carby idle jets are really small, and common to get craped up. When you get it sorted, run a secondary fuel filter between the pump and the carby inlet. The pump diaphram can break down and loose bits of rubber that get in everything.

Layto....

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:31 pm
by junior80
thats a good idea. I was going to get a new fuel filter for it tomorrow arvo so I may as well get two of them. cheers

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:34 am
by suzuki boy
Take the aircleaner off the top of the carbi. Get it running rev it pretty hard but not too hard then stick your hand over the carbi! Try to keep it goin with your hand over the top. Your hand will be covered in crap and it should work again!

I do thid when theres anything wierd going on in the engine bay and so far it has fixed every thing! :cool:

The mechanic over the road said they used to tune up one of the older fords with that trick! ;)

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:57 am
by junior80
yeah just used a rag over the top of the carby and it sortof made it a little better. nearly gassed the house out tho :oops:

I'll keep trying. it's starting to really shit me off now :x

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:05 am
by Red_Zook
junior80 wrote:yeah just used a rag over the top of the carby and it sortof made it a little better. nearly gassed the house out tho :oops:

I'll keep trying. it's starting to really shit me off now :x
how u go with the stuff i told you?

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:30 am
by junior80
yeah i squirted the crap out of it with carby cleaner, tried sucking the shit out with my hand on top now it'll start and run fine but even the slightest rev and it wont go back to idle it'll just die in the arse. one of my mates is coming round to give me a hand him knowing more about it than me, and wer're going to pull it appart and clean it with carby clean and compressed air. I'm convinced its crap in the idler jet causing the problem.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:02 pm
by Red_Zook
suzuki boy wrote:Take the aircleaner off the top of the carbi. Get it running rev it pretty hard but not too hard then stick your hand over the carbi! Try to keep it goin with your hand over the top. Your hand will be covered in crap and it should work again!
NEVER stick your hand over the carbi!
if you get a good seel, and the motor is reving.. it will suck your hand it and break your hand!!!


its defently carbi!
i will have my $10 now!

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:16 pm
by lay80n
Red_Zook wrote:
suzuki boy wrote:Take the aircleaner off the top of the carbi. Get it running rev it pretty hard but not too hard then stick your hand over the carbi! Try to keep it goin with your hand over the top. Your hand will be covered in crap and it should work again!
NEVER stick your hand over the carbi!
if you get a good seel, and the motor is reving.. it will suck your hand it and break your hand!!!


its defently carbi!
i will have my $10 now!

Use a rag over the top of the carby, and have a good hold on the rag. The vacum generated by blocking the intake fraws the crap out of the jets. But if the stuff in the jets is too big, it will just move round but not come out. and in the end it will block up again. Take the carby apart and clean it with compressed air

Layto....

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:57 pm
by Dooley
Red_Zook wrote:
suzuki boy wrote:Take the aircleaner off the top of the carbi. Get it running rev it pretty hard but not too hard then stick your hand over the carbi! Try to keep it goin with your hand over the top. Your hand will be covered in crap and it should work again!
NEVER stick your hand over the carbi!
if you get a good seel, and the motor is reving.. it will suck your hand it and break your hand!!!


its defently carbi!
i will have my $10 now!
You serious or this some weird sort of humour ?

Myself and a few others have done it before to try and clear the idle jet. Never broke any hands.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:10 pm
by Red_Zook
Dooley wrote:
Red_Zook wrote:
suzuki boy wrote:Take the aircleaner off the top of the carbi. Get it running rev it pretty hard but not too hard then stick your hand over the carbi! Try to keep it goin with your hand over the top. Your hand will be covered in crap and it should work again!
NEVER stick your hand over the carbi!
if you get a good seel, and the motor is reving.. it will suck your hand it and break your hand!!!


its defently carbi!
i will have my $10 now!
You serious or this some weird sort of humour ?

Myself and a few others have done it before to try and clear the idle jet. Never broke any hands.
nah true fact!
one of the first things they teach you at tafe

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:34 pm
by Dooley
Interesting, I can see how when I think about it... but you sure a zook could even suck enough air to the engine to do that though ?

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:45 pm
by lay80n
Dooley wrote:Interesting, I can see how when I think about it... but you sure a zook could even suck enough air to the engine to do that though ?
Never seen it with a zook (or small motor at all) but have seen a guy try to stop a bus diesel with his hand over the intake pipe, after the fuel cut solenoid failed. Messy messy hand.

Layto....

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:26 pm
by Red_Zook
its just a good genral rule never do it!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:03 pm
by junior80
they suck like a motherarker! nearly sucked the rag out of my hand


it did fix it for a little bit, but then it started playing up again. did end up taking it for a trail bash

I'll take it appart later and clean it properly, or get a corrolla carby without all that emissions bullshit.