Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Gidday All,

I know heaps of people are putting Bundy coils or Hilux Diffs with Leafs under Zuks. But the Hilux rear is centered!

So has anyone used a Crusier MWB leaf (or whateva there called) under the rear end, because as far as I know they are off set like Zuk rears??

Anyones thoughts??

Fair few people have used 60's diffs before. Centred diff is not that much of an issue, there are ways aroudn the drive shaft vibes.

Layto....

So go the old double cardans and it should go ok?

What about tansfer mounts?

Anyone have trouble and Break them running lux or Bundy diffs?

Do you mean has anyyone broke a transfer mount or diffs?
I run lux diffs in a lwb and dont have a prob with vibrations. For transfer mounts I braced both arms.For rubber mount on the passenger side I got a standard mount and cut the studs off. Then I drilled a hole all the way through and run a bolt through it. I used the rubber bush and washers of the pin end of a shock top and bottom that way it is still dampened in forward and reverse. It hasnt broken since.
Nik

Lay80n,what ways do you use to stop tailshaft vibration,Cheers Paul.

MART wrote:Lay80n,what ways do you use to stop tailshaft vibration,Cheers Paul.

CV joints instead of Uni's should stop the vibration as they dont have the acceleration/deceleration phaseing like uni's do. Slight angle on the rear (i.e. so the uni has to work at an angle, not point along drive shaft) should minismise vibes them if you are uni's. Running a Double cardon is not the best idea, as the 2 uni's in the DC cancel each others phasing out, but the rear uni still has to opperate at an angle and will cause vibes. How bad does it Vibrate? Been in a few zooks with lux diffs and the vibes were not too bad. Depends on how they were set-up.

Layto....

Nik
Yeah thought the trans case mounts might cop a floggin, but also wondered what anyone had broken when they run lux diffs. Your way of doing the mounts seems to make sense. I will look at that Thanks.

What Ratio's does anyone run with lux diffs? Im Thinkin the 4.8 would be fine with the 1L trans case, running 33 tyers.

Layn80
I was tryin to avoid 60's diffs because I thought that was just gettin too heavy and wide for what I need.

in answer to your orignal post, yes it is possible to use a bundeera rear diff, although they are pretty hard to come by.

Chris

Im running that ratio with a series one rockhopper the same high range as one litre case and thirty threes. It does about four thousand rpm at ninety to one hundred kph. Bit high on road but not low enough off road.
Nik
Have to write numbers as the numbers on keyboard dont work

NIK wrote:Im running that ratio with a series one rockhopper the same high range as one litre case and thirty threes. It does about four thousand rpm at ninety to one hundred kph. Bit high on road but not low enough off road.
Nik
Have to write numbers as the numbers on keyboard dont work

press NumLock

Roctoy Designfab wrote:in answer to your orignal post, yes it is possible to use a bundeera rear diff, although they are pretty hard to come by.

Chris

Im using a bundy rear and hilux front. I was orginally going to use 80series diffs but the combo I have now worked out a fair bit cheaper. Plus Im linking and coiling it. Detroit in the rear and air locker in the front. Got both diffs (seperately) and lockers (seperately) and it worked out way under a grand (uninstalled of course) for twin locked diffs. The 80s diffs cost over a grand alone uninstalled and unlocked.

EDIT: Bundy's use the same centres as a hilux so spares are readily available too

Red zook I have a lap top and there is no NUM LOCK or seacond set of numbers. It will probly work again tommorrow if its in the mood, come to think of it maybe the missus has had an influence on it
Nik

hahaha you better hope she dont look on here or ull be up s**t creek

Your a brave man Nik!

4.8 toys with 33's and Rockhopper sounds like the set I will aim for.

Nik did you say that you dont like the set up you have because it screams on road @100kph and not low enough off road??

Sound like serries 4 hoppers is the way to go and or the 5.2 ratios??

CV joints instead of Uni's should stop the vibration as they dont have the acceleration/deceleration phaseing like uni's do. Slight angle on the rear (i.e. so the uni has to work at an angle, not point along drive shaft) should minismise vibes them if you are uni's. Running a Double cardon is not the best idea, as the 2 uni's in the DC cancel each others phasing out, but the rear uni still has to opperate at an angle and will cause vibes. How bad does it Vibrate? Been in a few zooks with lux diffs and the vibes were not too bad. Depends on how they were set-up.

Layto....[/quote]

when you say the vibrations were ok, was that at low speed 4wd or open road at 100k. read a few places that strongly recommend not to use lux diffs if vehicle to be driven on road.

darkor wrote:CV joints instead of Uni's should stop the vibration as they dont have the acceleration/deceleration phaseing like uni's do. Slight angle on the rear (i.e. so the uni has to work at an angle, not point along drive shaft) should minismise vibes them if you are uni's. Running a Double cardon is not the best idea, as the 2 uni's in the DC cancel each others phasing out, but the rear uni still has to opperate at an angle and will cause vibes. How bad does it Vibrate? Been in a few zooks with lux diffs and the vibes were not too bad. Depends on how they were set-up.

Layto....

when you say the vibrations were ok, was that at low speed 4wd or open road at 100k. read a few places that strongly recommend not to use lux diffs if vehicle to be driven on road.[/quote]

Know of a few people that daily drive their lux diffed zooks, and have driven to QLD from newy etc fine. Its very hard to define how bad a vibe is, as everyone's opinion is different.

Layto....

whats the going price these days for front and rear bundera diffs???

Evan...

Yes Remydog Iwould like it a bit higher on road and a bit lower off road. But it depends what you have planned. I dont drive my zook daily so its livable plus I cant justify the dollars to fix it. Ive had my series one since before the others were around so I had no choice.
Nik

Most of the prices ive been told for bundy has been $900 plus each!

One even said $1500!!!!!!!!!!

But thats of the wreckers where you pay more.


HIlux is every where so its cheaper but bundy is offset and coil so is most peoples choice.

Nottie on this site has mentioned 60 sereis diffs for $500 a set, are these the same width as the bundy diffs just leaf instead of coil? Could be worth giving him a PM if you're chasing diffs for the right price.

just cruizin' wrote:Nottie on this site has mentioned 60 sereis diffs for $500 a set, are these the same width as the bundy diffs just leaf instead of coil? Could be worth giving him a PM if you're chasing diffs for the right price.

I think they are wider, though thats not necessarily a bad thing. Zook60 had 60s diffs under his zook and they worked very well. Coiled and linked too

40 series diffs are the same width as hilux and share the same front axles and swivel hub asembly some rears are full floaters too.
I can't see why a little extra weight and about 1/2 an inch less clearance matters when the centre is much stronger and their cheap too.

Just my opinion though.

I GOT A PAIR UNDER THE BUNDY
$1200 THE PAIR
CALL ME 0432108004 MY NET ACESS IS LIMITED

#DISTURBED# wrote:I GOT A PAIR UNDER THE BUNDY
$1200 THE PAIR
CALL ME 0432108004 MY NET ACESS IS LIMITED

1200 a pair is ridiculas

WELL WHAT R THEY WORTH THEN
it includes suspension & chassis so u can use the mounts & coil pods

#DISTURBED# wrote:WELL WHAT R THEY WORTH THEN

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Thanks for your input!