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QUICK!! buckshots or Mudzillas (or nankang mudstars)

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:46 pm
by RockyF75
Need 2 new tyres, I have a choice between these 3, (buckshots or muzillas) for $175 ea. OR nankangs for $145 but i'm thinkin for $30 extra a tyre i'd go the maxxis cause they seem to be a better known/trusted brand. Any thoughts?? $175 seems nice n cheap for the maxxis :idea:

EDITED AGAIN: kept searching, and mudzillas seem to wear crappily?? Are the buckshots any better?

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:47 pm
by RoldIT
Thinks you mean mudstars NOT mudzillas ...

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:52 pm
by RockyF75
RoldIT wrote:Thinks you mean mudstars NOT mudzillas ...
Yeah edited, sorry :D


BTW i'm looking for most tyre life/strength outta the 3, not so much offroad performance. Mudzilla's seem to be a softer compound so i'm leaning towards buckshots but i'm not really sure. Its in 235/75/15 if that makes ne differance

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:58 pm
by RoldIT
RockyF70 wrote:
RoldIT wrote:Thinks you mean mudstars NOT mudzillas ...
Yeah edited, sorry :D


BTW i'm looking for most tyre life/strength outta the 3, not so much offroad performance. Mudzilla's seem to be a softer compound so i'm leaning towards buckshots but i'm not really sure. Its in 235/75/15 if that makes ne differance
Got em on the brain haven't you ... you do understand Mudzilla are a completely different tyre, not comparable to the others you're talking about?

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:00 pm
by RockyF75
RoldIT wrote:
RockyF70 wrote:
RoldIT wrote:Thinks you mean mudstars NOT mudzillas ...
Yeah edited, sorry :D


BTW i'm looking for most tyre life/strength outta the 3, not so much offroad performance. Mudzilla's seem to be a softer compound so i'm leaning towards buckshots but i'm not really sure. Its in 235/75/15 if that makes ne differance
Got em on the brain haven't you ...
Nah, i think i confused you. I can get Maxxis Buckshots or Mudzilla's for $175, OR Nankang MUDSTARS for $145. So its a 3-way choice atm unless someone suggests something better for around that price again. And i'm leaning away from the mudzilla's now cause in the threads i was searching people were saying they wear really quickly and my tyres will be doing 400ks + a week. So really lookin at Buckshots or Mudstars now :?

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:00 pm
by grimbo
what motorbike are you fitting these two because if you are trying to replace some on your car you should replace them all or at least match to the other two on the car

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:04 pm
by RoldIT

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:05 pm
by RockyF75
grimbo wrote:what motorbike are you fitting these two because if you are trying to replace some on your car you should replace them all or at least match to the other two on the car
Having my AT's on the front for now, with these new 2 on the rear. Currently I have AT;s at rear and crap retreads at the front which are starting to peel away. I'm going to be doing about 1200k's of highway and dirt driving in the next week and I really dont want the retreads to come apart in the middle of nowhere doing 100kph, but I cant afford ~800+ for 4 new tyres, so I'm keeping the A/Ts for the time being, and replacing the other two, which will then be replaced later with the same tyre I buy now. Nothing wrong with having different styles front to back. They will all be the same size anyway

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:08 pm
by RockyF75
RoldIT wrote:This is a Maxxis Mudzilla

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didn't realise that, just found them mentioned in this thread http://carl.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopi ... es+nankang
"Mud Tyres, cheap and long lasting. Do they exist?" - so i guess the title kinda fooled me.

So its down to Buckshots or Mudstars

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:19 pm
by CanberraMav
Mudzillas look almost the same as a Mickey T Claw.

They look nothing like that picture.

They are a good tyre but are bias ply and are very noisy on the road.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:21 pm
by CanberraMav
The rolling diameter will be different even if labelled the same size.

You will be fine if you dont engage 4wd.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:24 pm
by RockyF75
CanberraMav wrote:The rolling diameter will be different even if labelled the same size.

You will be fine if you dont engage 4wd.
I've run different sizes front/rear now for about 6 months without trouble, inc some 4x4ing. Its usually on slippery dirt/mud/rock so the drivetrain strain is minimal.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:39 pm
by RoldIT
CanberraMav wrote:Mudzillas look almost the same as a Mickey T Claw.

They look nothing like that picture.

They are a good tyre but are bias ply and are very noisy on the road.
Yep, but I don't think they are made by Maxxis anymore, they seem to have dropped off their product lists. Aside from that fact, they are still nothing like the other 2 tyres referred to.

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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:14 pm
by klrevo
if someone can explain the difference to everyone else and myself, between the buckshot and the mudstar.

iv got mudstars and from what iv seen theyre the exact same tyre, so to me, they would be my choice, and are my choice because theyre cheaper.

the mudstars have proven me well, and the go everywhere that everyone in the club and anyone iv been driving with off outers have been. Never done a sidewall and never staked and theyre always on 12 psi when offroad, so the sidewalls are out there to be staked, but never have, had them for about 12 months now, they get driven every single day, and the wear rate i can see is minimal, they came with about 14mm tread, and theyre still about 12mm, road pressure 38psi, never been rotated, all worn evenly. Been a great tyre for me, and as i was at uni when i bought them was after something cheaper than a bfg or mtr. They cost $714 for 4 33x12.5x15 fitted and balanced.

my 2c worth :D

dean. ;)

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:37 pm
by RockyF75
Yeah, after looking around I was going to get the Mudstar, but rang up about 6 different places today and ALL out of stock in my size :bad-words: . Containers not comming in until the 15th of march and I need em NOW :cry: . So i'm getting Nankang A/T's. Same as I have now on the rear and they are wearing quite nicely. Just wanted to go to MTs as daily's but I guess i'll have to put up with AT's for a bit longer.

Mudstar looks like the lugs are closer together than the buckshots from the pics i've seen, could be wrong though.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:48 pm
by HotFourOk
MTRs :finger:

U know you wanna :D

Hope the ATs are good mate... You always have the ETs for offroad :armsup:

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:54 pm
by RockyF75
HotFourOk wrote:MTRs :finger:

U know you wanna :D

Hope the ATs are good mate... You always have the ETs for offroad :armsup:
Yeah but i carnt be bothered changing tyres all the time, only on big trips, and AT's, faaaar out, they just suck offroad :cry: . But at least they should wear well, and be fuel efficient. Would have been happier with the muds. And if MTR's come down by about $100ea I'd get em, but $250 is a bit exxy for a glorified AT :P :D

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:04 pm
by badger
go the buckshots. better carcase than nangkang. but essentially the same tyre.
i havent seen mudzillas for a while but they may still be out there, not a tyre of choice for big k's tho

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:14 pm
by Nev
I dont know where you got your price for the MTR but you can get them in that size for very close on $200 (i paid $220 for 30's). Have had the nankangs and they were quite good but not even close to the performance of an MTR-fantastic tyre!

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:08 pm
by ludacris
Buckshot for sure.

LudaCris

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:05 pm
by Turbz
I am running buckshots. They are fabulous so far. On and off road. Quiet. Grippy. Cheaper than others. Good luck bro.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:14 pm
by RockyF75
Already ordered the Nankang AT's. But for future reference, how are the Buckshots wearing?

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:53 pm
by Badass Bundy
I have had both brands on my fourby and i cant notice anything different between them :roll:

i have run both down to 16psi and i have never had a puncture. they have the exact same tread pattern. so if your thinking about cost then id go the Mudstars (which i have on mine now) :armsup:

mudtsars

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:55 pm
by klrevo
thats what im trying to figure out. I dont understand the point of paying an extra $30 or $40 or whatever per tyre, when theyre the same tyre... :?

i ended up with the 33" Mudstars for a really good price, and i give them hell on and off road, and they love it, wearing well, never rotated and no major chunking/slicing, and never done a sidewall. What they are lacking is the sidewall protection/aggresion that an MTR or MTZ have. Very decent tyre for the price.

Id go again next time prob, if i wasnt planning on touring the country for 12 months or so and if i couldnt afford better.

dean ;)

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:11 pm
by HotFourOk
RockyF70 wrote:Already ordered the Nankang AT's
Soft.