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well my car has been finsihed and made 195hp/145kw and about 950ft.lb tourqe.

My question is that good becuase i spent alot of of money and i thought it would make a fair bit more power..

What are ur thoughts?


Rick.

how much boost

No thats fairly low output for even a non intercooled setup, can u post dyno sheet??

That amount of torque doesn't sound right to me next to that amount of power.

It's like 1400 Nm isn't it? And 145kW, when a stock TB42 makes 125kW and 320Nm.

Are we talking about power/torque at the wheels or at the flywheel?

Does it feel a lot quicker?

chimpboy wrote:That amount of torque doesn't sound right to me next to that amount of power.

It's like 1400 Nm isn't it? And 145kW, when a stock TB42 makes 125kW and 320Nm.

Are we talking about power/torque at the wheels or at the flywheel?

Does it feel a lot quicker?

stock tb doesn't make 125kw at the wheels more like 70 + on 35's

Well here is the dynp sheet.

IMHO i thought it would go harder then what it does.

Maybe i'm just wanting more then what is possible..

Also i may have read the sheet wrong



Thanks for ya help.

Rick.

Also this is on 31" tyres!!!!

sounds pretty bad to me, for starters the thing needs an intercooler to bring the inlet temps down, from there you can put more ignition timing boost and fuel into it, to make more power

p.s. dont use a cheap chinese intercooler, they dont flow, or cool efficiantly and you will only have to spend more money again.

Thanks mate my pod filter is pretty much like 2" away from the turbo and gets hot do you think this would be killing much peformance?

Also i'm not sure if i have a Garrett turbo or not becuase the people said it should have a Garrett tag. Mine doesn't and i asked the guy it doesn't he reakons becuase it was a custom build

Any help with other suggestions

Rick.

pod filters are good for nothing, your going to want to get some nice clean air from outside the car, find a nice big air box, the less restrictions you you have the more efficient the turbo will get so keep all you piping big. but you still need a good intercooler. i can't stress that enough!!!!

turbo4.8 wrote:pod filters are good for nothing, your going to want to get some nice clean air from outside the car, find a nice big air box, the less restrictions you you have the more efficient the turbo will get so keep all you piping big. but you still need a good intercooler. i can't stress that enough!!!!

Yeah i understand i need a intercooler but i thought it would get alot better HP then that IMHO .

How much extra hp roughly would i get from a intercooler?


Rick.

The biggest problem is you took it the biggest buch of #$%@ around take it to a proper tuning mechanic one who knows what there doing, not just money hungry

Josh085 wrote:The biggest problem is you took it the biggest buch of #$%@ around take it to a proper tuning mechanic one who knows what there doing, not just money hungry

So there not any good or something?

Rick.

Mulisha wrote:

Josh085 wrote:The biggest problem is you took it the biggest buch of #$%@ around take it to a proper tuning mechanic one who knows what there doing, not just money hungry

So there not any good or something?

Rick.

There good at oil changes but not at tuning as i have found out

My mate had pretty much the same set up as you but he had a intercooler. It was only a cheap one, he also had standard ignition and it made 175rwkw on 36" simexs
You should be getting more power

a good cooler will cost you app 1200$ you just have to make it fit, as far how much h/p it will make depends alot on your ignition system the size and type of turbo that you have, exhaust and inlet manifold, intercooler size and efficiancy, carby and fuel, and the nut who is tuning it and if he has a brain or not.

Tuflux308 wrote:My mate had pretty much the same set up as you but he had a intercooler. It was only a cheap one, he also had standard ignition and it made 175rwkw on 36" simexs
You should be getting more power

X2 mate

I just can't belive that i'm getting so farked over with this ..

sorry bud but you get what you pay for in this world, in this case im sorry you didn,t.

Josh085 wrote:

Mulisha wrote:

Josh085 wrote:The biggest problem is you took it the biggest buch of #$%@ around take it to a proper tuning mechanic one who knows what there doing, not just money hungry

So there not any good or something?

Rick.

There good at oil changes but not at tuning as i have found out

ive been told the same thing, about tuning an MX5 (race car) with motec.... no idea, said we'll do a free service if we can put a sticker on the front gaurd and that was it.

bugger the free sevice and the sticker you only want to do it once, and the right way the first time. otherwise you may as well through you money down the drain. it'll end up costing you twice as much to do it a second time.

I feel like buring the car now so pissed off with all this sh1t!!!!!

hmm i though it went hard just my thought but yeah u will always have a few buggs to get out when u do things like this hopfully its not a big one ( need to do tuff laps tomoro night and smoke some comodores )

don't burn it, i'll have a chat to a few people tomorrow and see if i can get some names of people who can look after you a bit better in your part of the world.

chappos tuned 2 of my mates gq diesels. both go well but i think the egt's may be a lil high. ive heard they have no idea about petrols tho.
they also removed and bypassed the water seperator off of my uncles 75 series because it was full. motor hydrauliced itself a few weeks later, they knew nothing.


there used to be a realy good shop in the industrial estate at maroochydore but i cant remember there name, mab someone can help ya

turbo4.8 wrote:don't burn it, i'll have a chat to a few people tomorrow and see if i can get some names of people who can look after you a bit better in your part of the world.

Thanks so much mate !!

I feel like sh1t right now becuase 195hp didn't make me want to jump over the moon.

Rick.

mate im running a turboed tb 4.2 and ive got a t4 turbo intercooler bit of internal work like cam port polish decompressed and im getting 230- 255kw depending on what tyres i got it dynoed with 35 @ 235kw at the wheels with 31s i got 255kw 37 i got 230 kw id be looking into this but i can tell ya ive spen twice as much as you on my motor and you sure do get what you pay for...........

turbo4.8 wrote:pod filters are good for nothing

said that weeks ago.. but he likes his pod. stuck in engine bay with all the heat, all it will do is suck hot air, and lose power. even pipework down behind the bar, outside of engine bay would be better.

Is it going to be used offroad?

frigga 40 wrote:mate im running a turboed tb 4.2 and ive got a t4 turbo intercooler bit of internal work like cam port polish decompressed and im getting 230- 255kw depending on what tyres i got it dynoed with 35 @ 235kw at the wheels with 31s i got 255kw 37 i got 230 kw id be looking into this but i can tell ya ive spen twice as much as you on my motor and you sure do get what you pay for...........

Thanks alot mate !

I just thought i would get alot more power o well looks like i'm got 195hp.

Rick.

bogged wrote:

turbo4.8 wrote:pod filters are good for nothing

said that weeks ago.. but he likes his pod. stuck in engine bay with all the heat, all it will do is suck hot air, and lose power. even pipework down behind the bar, outside of engine bay would be better.

Is it going to be used offroad?

Thanks bogged .. Looking at running a 4" stainless snorkle soon..


Rick.

the bigger the turbo you put on the more kw you will make, it comes down to you where you want to make the power e.g where it come in and what it makes power to. no good putting a huge turbo on as it will be lagy come on boost late take a while to spool up, and not be usable power or torque.