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Just blown my rocky 2.8 diesel engine

and was just wondering about rebuild kits any good ones and how much do they cost.

all of my water is now in the sump and one of the push rods are going down into the engine, it starts but sounds like alot of metal is moving around.



Rick

i rebuilt mine about two years ago i think it was about $900 for the kit that was with new pistons and liners then i also needed the head redone new rocker arm s and a new cam some bits were hard to get but it cost me about $3300 just in parts and machining labour and the beer it took me to put it back together and back in +a new radiator and new injectors as well the only thing i did not touch was the fuel pump good luck

I did Rocky 1 about 4 years ago. Cost about $6k all up. A lot I know...
Wasn't until I tallied it all up that I realised.
Costs were:
Brand New Daihatsu OEM head $1300
Injector pump and injectors $1300
Bottom end (below the head) proffesionally rebuilt by Southcott's in adelaide $2500 (included new bearings, pistons, liners, valves for the new head - they dont come with valves, machining, etc).
Plus other assorted junk (water pump, hoses, etc, etc).

Mind you, the engine was still running when I did the rebuild. Was just a bit tired thats all. Have done 100,000km's since and still going well.

To be completley honest I probably wouldn't do it again. Just get a second hand turbo motor with low km's and chuck that in. It's probably the same cost by the end of it.

Other thing is, cos the DL motor uses liners, you can have difficulty getting the new liners to fit properly. Like most cast Iron block diesels, the blocks warp slightly and unless you get proper heat conduction from the new liners to the block, they will crack. It's difficult to explain but it all makes sense.

Good luck

unbolted all most everything now just need to pick up my lifting chain tomorrow, drained the oil and stuck my little finger in the drain plug hole and all i can feel is a hill of scrap metal

a second hand engine is starting to sound really good now



I thought rocky's were made from sterner stuff


Rick

It happens to the best of 'em (toyota, nissan)

It all depends on how there treated. With regular servicing they'll go the distance.
If not, they go bang.

Assuming you bought yours second hand like myself and many others, who knows what the previous owner was like...

Seems like yours went bang and is still running... just. Thats pretty commendable.

Cheers.

my wife just f ked mine too. Was servicing her pathfinder today so she took the rocky.Had just finished and was reading this when she rang and said your car just stopped.when i got there i found the oil sender had broken right off and it pumped all the oil out and siezed. she swears the oil light didnt come on

just got it home now 1.30am

My oil light does the same thing about 100 ks after a oil change the oil from the filter runs all over it, then the sand and dust sticks to it. I have to get a paint brush and some petrol and give it a clean and its fine.

Motor's out and striped ( looks like i need a new block to start with )

Number 3 piston exploded. Think i will have to revise driving habits abit.
Have some pics but can't find how to post them.

Rangie Thing wrote:Motor's out and striped ( looks like i need a new block to start with )

Number 3 piston exploded. Think i will have to revise driving habits abit.
Have some pics but can't find how to post them.

what happen ? or what wewre u doing ?

I just pulled out of a small town near horsham and just as i was about to go for 3rd gear it went bang, sounded like a fan belt coming of and hitting the fan.


When i striped it down the 3rd piston is in lots of bits and a far bit of the liner too. behind the liner where some of it has fallen away you can see a nice little crack in the block.

if some one can post pics i will email them.

Did the timing belt come off or break?

Engine is the early sprocket type, found a block for it but it is a belt drive type so i hope i can just change the timing gear over on ( will find out in the next few days anyway.

mine spun a bearing started to look for a motor and found a whole car for $1200 with a reco motor. dont no if i should fix mine engine and get the new one going again or keep the lot for spares.

lol. my feroza went bang(#3 piston shot rod through the block) and she still started up and ran.

looks like might have been the lifter broke up and got in the way.

picked up another old motor that had a spun bearing and will hope to use this one for the block.

230000 kilometers on my Feroza engine and yet nothing goes wrong. Only prolbems i have is outside of the engine i hate when every month a have a small screw problem

start using lockrite. should fix all ur problems. just a drop or two or you wont be able to break em loose.

I would be looking for another vehicle, on the cheap side. You should get something for less than a grand, or 2 at the most. You then have a heap of spares. You can then sell to offset your costs, and maybe end up with another motor for just about free. Check Ebay, or the local paper.

Then, of course, there is always this.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/DAIHATSU-DL-ENGI ... dZViewItem

Does anybody know how the idler sprocket holder comes off.
I have a book that shows it removed but doesn't show how.



Thanks Rick

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i hope this works for the pics
and i have found that the blocks for the belt drive and sprocket drive are not the same.



Rick

and this one

HOLY MOTHER OF FAWKING GOD!!

In the words of a bloke on TV a few years ago, OOOOOOO BUGGER.

damn thats one hell of an explosion. when i threw the #3 piston rod through the block, the pistion /rod did not suffer that much damage, although it took out atleast 5 inches by 5 inchs of cast iron completely. and this was only one side.

damn that sucks dude... something went seriously wrong there.

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It'll buff out.

I think i will have to revise my driving habits when i get it back on the road.
I was going to super glue it back together then remembered i was no good at jigsaw puzzles .

Also found out that the belt drive block and sprocket drive blocks will not interchange .


Rick

what is different ?? just the cam drive set up

The block is different the oil pump has been removed from the sump to the front timing cover and is driven from the crank on the belt drive.

The cam is different as has no oil pump drive and has no retainer to hold it in , it must be pressed in or have a clip else where on the belt drive ones ( the block has no drill holes for retainer as well )

The sprocket idler has been removed but could be fitted again with some drilling and some mods.

The crank is longer and has a smaller keyway as does the cam.

The injector pump i have know idea as i have not pulled it apart but it has a different number on it.

But on the plus side the timing covers are interchangable. so with an electric oil pump and some machining it might be doable.

Rangie Thing wrote:I think i will have to revise my driving habits when i get it back on the road.
Rick

What do you rev it to most of the time?

It sure did go BOOM in a big way