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Roof mounted spotlights

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:46 pm
by Badass Bundy
Ok whats the go? Are they able to be mounted on the roof or not? I have heard they are illegal (depends on the state) but i see them quite often mounted on roofs. Does it matter if they are mounted on your roof rack or on just a custom bar?

Little help.. :?

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:42 pm
by chops
i heard that they gotta be covered during the day/when they're not being used, and have to run on a separate on/off switch to your normal spotlights, but still can onl work when your high beams are on

Re: Roof mounted spotlights

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:45 pm
by bogged
Badass Bundy wrote:Little help.. :?
http://carl.outerlimits4x4.com/search.php

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:29 am
by Badass Bundy
Chops thanks mate!

Bogged :finger:

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:34 am
by Ruffy
Badass Bundy wrote:Chops thanks mate!

Bogged :finger:
Ummmm chops reply gave you nothing of any sustainance yet boggeds reply will give you your answers :? :? :?

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:53 am
by Badass Bundy
Ruffy wrote:
Badass Bundy wrote:Chops thanks mate!

Bogged :finger:
Ummmm chops reply gave you nothing of any sustainance yet boggeds reply will give you your answers :? :? :?
yeah but i already did a search and nothing came up. so there! :P

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:28 pm
by MKPatrolGuy
Badass Bundy wrote:
Ruffy wrote:
Badass Bundy wrote:Chops thanks mate!

Bogged :finger:
Ummmm chops reply gave you nothing of any sustainance yet boggeds reply will give you your answers :? :? :?
yeah but i already did a search and nothing came up. so there! :P
You can't have looked very hard, this is only a couple of the threads I found when I did a search for ROOF and LIGHT in GENERAL TECH.


http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic ... roof+light

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic ... roof+light

Dave.

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:07 am
by Ruffy
Badass Bundy wrote:
Ruffy wrote:
Badass Bundy wrote:Chops thanks mate!

Bogged :finger:
Ummmm chops reply gave you nothing of any sustainance yet boggeds reply will give you your answers :? :? :?
yeah but i already did a search and nothing came up. so there! :P
You don't deserve roof lights :finger:

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:09 pm
by peeko22
i got a roadworthy from kmart auto for my 80 series and i had 4 hella roof mounted spotteis mounted on it in qld. they are legal if independently wired to a cut off switch so you can use high beam without them. i have been pulled over many times and have not ben hassled or booked cos of them but if you do its your bad luck i guess

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:32 pm
by HotFourOk
I have my white covers on at all times when on road and never been hassled.

You only want to use them off road right ?

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:23 pm
by tuff4runner
is it ok to use them on road at night

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:56 pm
by GQ Bear
You're better off having them easily removable anyhow, or one day in the forest the koalas might steal them when you drive under a low branch ;)

That's the main reason i sold my roofracks, couple of good tracks i wasn't able to drive cos of height restriction.

As for the law, i don't know. But there's enough of em around without canaries slapped on their windscreens to make me think it's either legal or rarely inforced.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:18 pm
by HotFourOk
tuff4runner wrote:is it ok to use them on road at night
I wouldn't think so... As they are supposed to be on a seperate switch to your high beam, it makes them hard to flick off when an oncoming car appears.

I have also read that they must be turned on by a switch located outside the cabin so they are classed as work lights.

It's basically all hear say, as the RTA don't really give a definate answer.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:39 pm
by GQ Bear
HotFourOk wrote:
tuff4runner wrote:is it ok to use them on road at night
I wouldn't think so... As they are supposed to be on a seperate switch to your high beam, it makes them hard to flick off when an oncoming car appears.

I have also read that they must be turned on by a switch located outside the cabin so they are classed as work lights.

It's basically all hear say, as the RTA don't really give a definate answer.
Wouldn't they have to be switched via a relay so they turn off when you dip high beams, like normal spotties? ;) Therefore, i'd say you probably could use them on a dark highway, wotever, at night as long as you dipped them before blinding on-coming traffic.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:18 pm
by tna racing
GQ Bear wrote:
HotFourOk wrote:
tuff4runner wrote:is it ok to use them on road at night
I wouldn't think so... As they are supposed to be on a seperate switch to your high beam, it makes them hard to flick off when an oncoming car appears.

I have also read that they must be turned on by a switch located outside the cabin so they are classed as work lights.

It's basically all hear say, as the RTA don't really give a definate answer.
Wouldn't they have to be switched via a relay so they turn off when you dip high beams, like normal spotties? ;) Therefore, i'd say you probably could use them on a dark highway, wotever, at night as long as you dipped them before blinding on-coming traffic.
yer ya do mate.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:46 pm
by turps
adam penfold wrote:
GQ Bear wrote:
HotFourOk wrote:
tuff4runner wrote:is it ok to use them on road at night
I wouldn't think so... As they are supposed to be on a seperate switch to your high beam, it makes them hard to flick off when an oncoming car appears.

I have also read that they must be turned on by a switch located outside the cabin so they are classed as work lights.

It's basically all hear say, as the RTA don't really give a definate answer.
Wouldn't they have to be switched via a relay so they turn off when you dip high beams, like normal spotties? ;) Therefore, i'd say you probably could use them on a dark highway, wotever, at night as long as you dipped them before blinding on-coming traffic.
yer ya do mate.
I would say no and you would find people throwing stones at them.
Roof lights are good for seeing further yadda yadda. But on road if you come over a crest in the road the car, truck etc will see your bright and annoying roof lights (thus blinding hte driver) Before you even know their there.
Its also illegal to have incorrectly and /or any light that dazzle (or some word like that) any other road traffic.

Anyway search and someone has listed in one of the threads the direct link to the QLD TPT and Aust ADR requirements.
I would find and post but cant be arsed and will fit them anyway and use accordingly ie off-road or miles from anywhere.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:09 pm
by its aford not a nissan
i am going to put some on mine just to blind the farkers that dont dip there high beams for oncomming traffic

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:17 pm
by turps
its aford not a nissan wrote:i am going to put some on mine just to blind the farkers that dont dip there high beams for oncomming traffic
No need for roof lights to do that. I got lights on the bullbar that can get most people to dim theres.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:51 pm
by HotFourOk
turps wrote:
its aford not a nissan wrote:i am going to put some on mine just to blind the farkers that dont dip there high beams for oncomming traffic
No need for roof lights to do that. I got lights on the bullbar that can get most people to dim theres.
Yeah, Lightforce :D

Off topic - I hate people who use fog lights when it aint foggy. :bad-words:

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:58 pm
by turps
HotFourOk wrote:
turps wrote:
its aford not a nissan wrote:i am going to put some on mine just to blind the farkers that dont dip there high beams for oncomming traffic
No need for roof lights to do that. I got lights on the bullbar that can get most people to dim theres.
Yeah, Lightforce :D

Off topic - I hate people who use fog lights when it aint foggy. :bad-words:
Front factory fitted ones I can live with, as most are aimed low. But theres heaps of people around Bendigo, fitting them to shit heaps and there aimed all over the place. Also there just fitting driving lights but they think cos they mounted them under the bumper its ok. So if they can sit there with there driving lights on at the lights oppisite me. I did the same thing (no others on the other side of intersection of course). They got cranky.

The rear fog lights are worse. Get them all the time and they are such a distraction.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:30 am
by Shadow
turps wrote:
adam penfold wrote:
GQ Bear wrote:
HotFourOk wrote:
tuff4runner wrote:is it ok to use them on road at night
I wouldn't think so... As they are supposed to be on a seperate switch to your high beam, it makes them hard to flick off when an oncoming car appears.

I have also read that they must be turned on by a switch located outside the cabin so they are classed as work lights.

It's basically all hear say, as the RTA don't really give a definate answer.
Wouldn't they have to be switched via a relay so they turn off when you dip high beams, like normal spotties? ;) Therefore, i'd say you probably could use them on a dark highway, wotever, at night as long as you dipped them before blinding on-coming traffic.
yer ya do mate.
I would say no and you would find people throwing stones at them.
Roof lights are good for seeing further yadda yadda. But on road if you come over a crest in the road the car, truck etc will see your bright and annoying roof lights (thus blinding hte driver) Before you even know their there.
Its also illegal to have incorrectly and /or any light that dazzle (or some word like that) any other road traffic.

Anyway search and someone has listed in one of the threads the direct link to the QLD TPT and Aust ADR requirements.
I would find and post but cant be arsed and will fit them anyway and use accordingly ie off-road or miles from anywhere.
The restriction on maximum height was removed from the legislation quite some time ago, (QLD's legislation anyway, no idea on other states).

Now the only restriction is you are allowed a maximum of 3 pairs of forward facing driving lights. So for my HJ60, I have 2 pairs standard, so the set on my bullbar brings me up to maximum.

Ive asked a QLD transport officer this exact question, and his reply was that the legislation was omitted (didnt know if it was deliberately removed or some asshat forgot to include it), and now they cant defect you for it, unless you have more than 3 pairs of forward facing driving lights.