Outer Limits 4x4 Board

I could not resist throwing this in - there seems to be a bit of confusion in this forum about just what a "ute" actually is.

A trayback (or flatbed) is not a ute but a pickup, while a ute is a styleside.

That is based on the description of the world's very first ute by its designer - the 1934 A model Ford, designed by the late Lew Bandt, who called it a "coupe utility".

Of course, the Suzuki Sierra styleside has to complicate things by being a softop, while Bandt's design was the first with a steel roof incorporated into the body. So it might be a matter of argument as to whether a styleside Sierra is really a "ute" with its steel rollover hoop, but a steel-roofed trayback is still a "pickup".

Okay, let the bunfight begin!

Cheers - Longbaser.

who cares.

in Australia no one calls anything a pickup. A ute is as you described. a tray back is a trayback, or a cab chassis. or a ute.

Suzies are very basic
swb hard top
swb soft top
lwb soft top (hard body)
lwb ute


you run the risk of being branded a tosser if you call anything a pick up that doesn't have blonde hair and big titties

also to confusion it the swb soft top is regod as a ute and hardtop is a panel van.

try explaining to the cops about the drover, regod as holden panel van same as a sandman. they finally get it.

Nic

droopypete wrote:you run the risk of being branded a tosser if you call anything a pick up that doesn't have blonde hair and big titties

nicbeer wrote:also to confusion it the swb soft top is regod as a ute and hardtop is a panel van.

try explaining to the cops about the drover, regod as holden panel van same as a sandman. they finally get it.

Nic

In vic I beleive the definition is
rear seat (4 seater) = van
no rear seat (2seater) = ute
same applys to my Bundera.
peter.

According to a television doco I saw about utes and pickups, the oficial difference between the two is that a ute back is part of the rest of the cab, like the Commodores and all the old Holden and Ford utes of the past. A pickup has a separate back which can be removed from the cab. This was why the ute was an Aussie invention. The pickup was and still is common in the US F150s etc and so if we want to be technical all the Jap utes (Hilux, Navara etc) are in fact pickups. That is why the yanks call them that. We have over the years confused ourselves and lumped them all together. You must remember that prior to the Holden one tonner being introduced there wasn't an Aussie produced vehicle that the rear body could be removed and replaced with an alloy tray. Now, even the Falcon "ute" has a separate tray, but we should really be calling it a pickup if we want to be true to the definition of a utility. So, all of us who drive Hiluxs etc do not own utes at all. At least we don't call them Hardbodies over here.

Utes Have
B&S Stickers
12321431243 Arials and no radio
Truck Mudflaps
Cow horns
running lights every 15mm
XXXX or VB or Bundy stickers
RM Williams stickers
A V-8 or a 6 that wants to sound like a v8

Pickups have
A gun rack with a 12Ga and a min of 30/06 cal rifle and a "fishin' pole"
A meter of body lift, but still the orig. suspension and tyres
A 3 toothed driver named a) Cletus b) Jethro c) Billybob d) Chuck e) Biff
A V-8 usually side valve

Well that clears things up, I thought I had a truck.

Bad JuJu wrote:Utes Have
B&S Stickers
12321431243 Arials and no radio
Truck Mudflaps
Cow horns
running lights every 15mm
XXXX or VB or Bundy stickers
RM Williams stickers
A V-8 or a 6 that wants to sound like a v8

Pickups have
A gun rack with a 12Ga and a min of 30/06 cal rifle and a "fishin' pole"
A meter of body lift, but still the orig. suspension and tyres
A 3 toothed driver named a) Cletus b) Jethro c) Billybob d) Chuck e) Biff
A V-8 usually side valve

Is that from the RTA site

Now im confussed, Ive got a 4 seater panel van that has been cut into a 2 seater ute/pickup and a 2 seater panel van that has a back seat engineered making it a 4 seater, both being SJ40 Sierras. So Dr Phil can you help me figure out what sort of cars I acually have???????????

When i bought my soft top, the guy was telling me how the rego was so expensive because it was registered as a coupe. No idea where that put it in the whole scheme of the stuff above

Coxy

WRXZook wrote:Well that clears things up, I thought I had a truck.

If it goes offroad (flat dirt roads don't count) or has a diesel engine you can call it a truck .

Absolutly no B&S crap may be present at all.

1 radio in working condition must exist per arial on the vehicle

Have all your own teeth.

I agree with BadJuJu, any 4x4 that actually goes offroad, we call a truck (most of the 4x4's up here a diesel anyway). With the zooks, its either a ute, a hardtop, or a soft top. I usually say "...that guys commodore ute..." or "....that guys falcon ute...", so people know what i'm talking about.

100% with ricduza.
Look left. I own a Ute. End of story.

Zute wrote:100% with ricduza.
Look left. I own a Ute. The Finger End of story.

_________________
'94 NJ Pajero 3ltr Lwb
'90 Maruti Ute 1Ltr Lwb

I use to be indecisive, now Im not so sure?

U own a Indian copy of a zook

Its a Maruti ... your sig says so

Indian assembled. still has lots of real zook parts.

Well, you can call your vehicle a Truck if you prefer, but any resemblance an off road Hilux has to say a 10 tonne flat top truck is only in your mind. Just because you think of your pride and joy as a truck does not make it TUFF. I agree we have always considered Commodores and Falcons as utes, but if you are adhering to the offical definitions, the Falcon is now not a ute, but a pickup. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advercating the use of Americanisms into our language, in fact I'm sick of Aussie kids wanting to emulate the Yanks, so maybe substituting the word "truck" for "pickup" is a good Aussie way of retaining our individualism, what little we have left.

Where can I get hold of a Blueys Ute World Sticker saying "Real Aussies drive trucks"?
Ric

How to spot a ute



this is a ute,


so is this,


as is this,


this one to,



don't forget this one,


even this one,



and we mustn't forget this one,







are you guys seeing a trend here?


just to recap,








this is,



this isn't,



is,



isn't,
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I don't know about this one



Are we claer on the subject now girls?
Peter.

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These are pickups:

this thread is classic..

So what your saying is that this is a truck

http://www.globalcar.com/showroom/autoe ... 165639.htm

Ref: 165639
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Color: White
Engine: Gasoline
Price: US$ 1,700

Mileage: 93,000 Km.


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Popular in USA and Canada
See the Price

EQUIPMENT: 4 wheel drive (4x4), Certified, DIF LOCK.

And this is not a truck but a Pickup


But is it a pick up with truck rims, tyres & maybe diffs or is it truck tyres, rims & maybe diffs with a pick body on it?

Aerenandmel wrote:
And this is not a truck but a Pickup


But is it a pick up with truck rims, tyres & maybe diffs or is it truck tyres, rims & maybe diffs with a pick body on it?

No its a redneck holding his trucks sidestep on.

Layto....

I see 2 utes

Anyone know if we got them suzuki carrys in the 4x4 with a diff lock in Australia, like the one a couple of posts back? You would be forever rolling him end over end if you put a bit of lift under him and some 33's

Pickup or Ute?

Ute, pickup or stacks?


chop

ricduza wrote:Well, you can call your vehicle a Truck if you prefer, but any resemblance an off road Hilux has to say a 10 tonne flat top truck is only in your mind. Just because you think of your pride and joy as a truck does not make it TUFF. I agree we have always considered Commodores and Falcons as utes, but if you are adhering to the offical definitions, the Falcon is now not a ute, but a pickup. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advercating the use of Americanisms into our language, in fact I'm sick of Aussie kids wanting to emulate the Yanks, so maybe substituting the word "truck" for "pickup" is a good Aussie way of retaining our individualism, what little we have left.

Where can I get hold of a Blueys Ute World Sticker saying "Real Aussies drive trucks"?
Ric

its a diesel, it has the same running gear as a truck, its made like a truck only smaller, its a truck! my mq has the running gear of a truck, only with shorter driveshafts and sitting under a smaller(slightly) body. its a truck!

=SKB= wrote:Pickup or Ute?

SEDAN!!! hehe

so, then, what is the diff between 2 door cars/zooks, and coupe's?

will.

CHOPS1 wrote:Ute, pickup or stacks?


chop

thats a pickup-ute-truck cause its got stacks, so its gotta be a truck-ute-pickup or was that a pickup-truck-ute.



i'm confused now, i thought they where utes but utes are now trucks? & a truck is a pickup so a pickup must be a ute?