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Hey all.

Just bought some CJ5 rear springs for my 94 sierra and am going to put the rears on the front (like Liam from BBM - but i'm not going sprung over - just doing it to get a couple of inches.)

Any suggestions for shocks? I've heard people talk about commodore shocks for the front and hilux for the back... would they be good for mine?

Also - anyone got exact part numbers etc for them?

Thanks

James

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jamespbeasley wrote:Hey all.

Just bought some CJ5 rear springs for my 94 sierra and am going to put the rears on the front (like Liam from BBM - but i'm not going sprung over - just doing it to get a couple of inches.)

Any suggestions for shocks? I've heard people talk about commodore shocks for the front and hilux for the back... would they be good for mine?

Also - anyone got exact part numbers etc for them?

Thanks

James

OK James, please don't think I am having a go, but here goes. If you have sufficient skills to do this conversion, I am surprised you are asking this question. This job is going to require a fair degree of fabrication ability and there is no way that you are going to get away without reworking your bumpstop locations, brake line brackets and shock mounts, on top of anything you have to do in relation to chassis extension/steering box location and tie rod to drag link clearance.

possible candidates for shocks are OME N76, Rancho 99112, V6 4 Runner rears, commodore V series rear (VL-VP certainly) But, fitting any of them will require a combination of custom mountsa and bumpstop spacing, and what you can fit will also depend on wheel backspacing and tyre diameter.

The "right" shock will also depend on your preference too - a very soft shock like a N76 OME (or commodore) suits some of us interested in slow speed technical work (and we run very little compression travel) but if you want a more "high speed" car with more compression travel, you might want a shock with stiffer valving like a V6 4runner rear or a 99112

Just my thoughts.

Steve.

Ok cool thanks steve...

I actually dont have much idea what i'm doing... i just thought it would be a case of unbolt the old springs and socks and bolt on the new ones with extended shakles. Looks like that's not exactly the case.
I'm not really a massive 4wder... i just go once every few months and wanted to get the car a couple of inches higher so i can put on bigger tyres (probably 30's) to make it a bit more competant off road. I saw the springs in the thread and thought they sounded like a good way to get my few inches. Looks like thats not exactly the case either!

Do you think im in way over my head... should sell the springs and do something simpler? If so - what do u suggest?

Cheers - James

Yes a complex question really but have a go on doing it yourself... I use OME Shocks very stiff though *( the ones suited for Suzuki Sierra)
More reading in the bible and threads....If you are going to some real bog holes major ruts and some knarly hill climbs , then springs shocks with softer feel...unlike mine which do work but articulation wise are not brillant..too stiff...but Too soft and you will wonder all over the bitumen...
And also important your Tyres...I got 30" BFG's but 32" and above will help BUT gearing then becomes an issue... I'm with 30" and they perform OK "Muddies...

Have fun On what ever you do but keep it legit

If you're looking for simplicity maybe look at teh entire OME kit with some extended shackles.

This will give you a little over 2 inches of lift, a little more travel, better ride quality etc etc. All bolt on.

In what area of our country are you located?

Hey

Thanks guys... I might have a go, and if i find it all too hard then i might go for an ready set up bolt on kit... we'll see.

I'm on the northern suburbs of Sydney... so if there's anyone in my area who has done work like this on a sierra and has a real hankering to do some more work then let me know!

James

jamespbeasley wrote:Hey

Thanks guys... I might have a go, and if i find it all too hard then i might go for an ready set up bolt on kit... we'll see.

I'm on the northern suburbs of Sydney... so if there's anyone in my area who has done work like this on a sierra and has a real hankering to do some more work then let me know!

James

Maybe book your car in at BBM, i'm sure they'll be able to do the job.

I made these style things up for the cj springs. not using them at moment, waiting till on the road and full weight on there.

I had it setup on the chassis bare and it looked like it would work ok. soft springs as well.





Nic

K... $$$ is the problem.

Dont really wanna let much go... but may have to.

We'll see

nicbeer wrote:I made these style things up for the cj springs. not using them at moment, waiting till on the road and full weight on there.

I had it setup on the chassis bare and it looked like it would work ok. soft springs as well.

how many leaves would you run? i'm thinking 3

if money is the worrie just go a 2 inch body lift . will give you easy enough room to runs 30s you an buy everything u need for about 300$ and maybey 4 days work less if u know what your doin lol.

Cheers

jamespbeasley wrote:

nicbeer wrote:I made these style things up for the cj springs. not using them at moment, waiting till on the road and full weight on there.

I had it setup on the chassis bare and it looked like it would work ok. soft springs as well.

how many leaves would you run? i'm thinking 3

Not sure, all would depend on what load you have on it. Mines a tintop with toolbox and barrier in the back. i was thinking of running the whole lot and remove from there. you may also need a track bar of sorts depending on how soft they become so you dont wrap them.

jamespbeasley, its been said before, and it does take a little time and patience - but do a search, or even just read through all the posts in "the bible". There's craploads of info there about shocker choice etc.

Being a "budget" 4x4er these days, i opted to find a cheaper option than the more common "off the shelf" brand name shockers (OME, EFS etc. etc.), and ended up with a set of Gabriel shocks:

Gabriel P/N: 81340, normally to suit comm. wagon rear - fitted into zuk front. (pin top/eye bottom).

Gabriel P/N: 81318, normally to suit Ford Econovan, some Rodeo's, some Toyota Vans - but fitted into the zuk's rear. (eye top/eye bottom).

This suited my 2" lifted springs, are nice and soft (i like riding the "slower" terrain), but the rear upper shock mounts will be relocated in the future as the shockers bottom out before the bump stops do ATM.

Cheers, Coxy

i bought a full set of gabriels for my 2" lifted suzk and i havn't had any trouble with them.

they ride heaps softer than the other shocks that were in the car.
commodore wagon rears for the front and hiace van for the rears.