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what to buy pet-gas or tubo diesel gq
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:20 am
by MICK79CRUZA
hi looking to buy gq patrol need some advice on pet-gas over turbo diesel both 5sp, its one or the other just a few pro an cons with both motors would b good, the 91 4.2 pet-gas done 225k motor bit noisy (tappets) needs a tidy up 2inch lift other than that pretty standard but a good thing an 95 4.2 td at 330k rebuilt motor an turbo about 120k ago 4in dobsin kit new 33's been painted 6 months ago custom rear bar and its been USED( guy told me about panel damage etc) its a st-l ithink elec windows,mirrors,etc any advise would be great thanks guys mick
ps the pet-gas is half the price of the turbo d ???
I want to do a bit of travel soon but mainly my weekend warrior. im a bush man not a beacher.
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:25 am
by nastytroll
I've got 3x turbo 4.2 deisels n a 4.2 petrol carby gqs n I prefer the tds over the petrol, TDs drive better more responsive down low, they will idle over terrain where petrol wants to run at 1500rpm deisel will do 800rpm, I get 5km/l on petrol driving easy n at least 9 km/l driving deisel hard, petrols are prone to crack heads deisels have few problems
Others may disagree just my preference
Best of luck
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:02 pm
by Ruffy
TD. No questions about it.
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:15 pm
by offroader-rama
get the 1 on gas sell the 4.2 petrol motor $500 -$1000 and throw in a new small block 350 chev ($3000 crate motor $2000 fitting) then you have spent what you would have buying the turbo diesel it'll go better with a v8 and cost nothing (/ a lot less) to repair if needed engine wise
thats my 2 cents worth and what i'm doing exept mine will be a 383 stroker or big block i have a good small block suit rebuild for sale still good standed bore if you like that idea.
pet/gas or td
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:31 pm
by skinna
i had td cab chassis and now own 4.2 pet/gas wagon go deisel im kickn myself for not buyn deisel but im now goin to put 5.0lt efi in wagon with the gas set up on it so for now i say deisel but stay tuned lol
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:32 pm
by ROLOVR
You need to work out if your going do most of your driving touring or bashing . if i was touring with the occasional bash id go TD, however if i was just being a weekendwarrior id go TB cause they are cheaper to run and they love sitting on the limiter most the time
reliability vs economy, both good motors really, ive owned both and you need to spend a heap on the TD to get it too move where the TB stock with a snorkel and a flowed exhaust still turn 35" enuf to drive it.
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:56 pm
by offroader-rama
SO FAR
2 X TD
2 X V8
1 X TB
I like this, its like FORD verses HOLDEN then both get beaten by the promotional girls i'll stay tuned
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:18 pm
by MyGQ
Well can't say for TD but i have got myself a NA 4.2L Diesel after writing my 1990 Pet-Gas Mav off.
So far no regrets over the Diesel setup, with a Turbo i recon she would go even harder, mine lacks some speed up hills, but Turbo makes a huge diff to that.
So mark me down as one for the Diesel Crowd
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:12 pm
by BIg StEvE
TD
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:17 pm
by badger
unless its a cheap beater or a v8 id say diesel all the way
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:17 pm
by offroader-rama
SO FAR
4 X TD
2 X V8
1 X TB
badger was it a v8 or diesel one or the other
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:38 pm
by macca81
THATS NOT A QUESION!!!!
diesel.
a question would be, why do they make petrol engines for 4wds
hehe
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:18 pm
by Stu'sBeast
ROLOVR wrote:you need to spend a heap on the TD to get it too move where the TB stock with a snorkel and a flowed exhaust still turn 35" enuf to drive it.
My naturally aspirated TD turned 35's well enough, definately no speeed demon though, much nicer once the diff gears were done moves just as well as she did with 31's.
Go the diesel you'll be happier in the long run, especially since the motor has been rebuilt
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:44 am
by badger
its a diesel hands down for what i do.
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:33 am
by sim
I have a tb 42 efi petrol/gas beats a diesel any day, but the one you are looking at is a carby model. I say talk them down on price and drop in a v8...
re motors
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:21 pm
by MICK79CRUZA
Hi guy thaks for all the advice i want a turbo d i really do but such a price diff like 7000$ the turo d is at 12000 and pet gas 5000$ what do ya think now ? could allways do motor swap down the track (V8) i could spend the 7000 diff and turn the pet gas wild with lcokers lift and v8 for that then it would put a td to sleep haha only a thought. looking to sell swap my 99gsxr 750 or fj45 lwb v8 308 fiberglass front for a gq any intrest please pm mick
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:45 pm
by nastytroll
Look around td42 pop up cheap $5000 naturally aspirated then spend the extra on turbo, lift n lockers, but if its got a rebiult motor with receipts its not a bad buy
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:47 pm
by offroader-rama
quote
could allways do motor swap down the track (V8) i could spend the 7000 diff and turn the pet gas wild with lcokers lift and v8 for that then it would put a td to sleep haha only a thought.
now your thinking what im thinking and we aren't all alone on that thought same are just byast and/or have deeper pockets to burn holes in
what do the big most comp trucks run there is your answer just refine for everyday driving
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:58 pm
by shakes
I've had a swb gas'd GQ
It shat all over my bro-in-laws lwb diesel ute around town (driver wise)
If a heavy right foot was needed the petrol had the rev's to get outa trouble.
but...
long steep rutty hills were traction wasnt an issue
anything towing wise
and freeway wise the diesel was much nicer.
Simon
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:10 pm
by Mulisha
Turbo Tb42 Petrol
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:44 am
by Jimbo
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:06 am
by offroader-rama
we have some new contenders a turbo tb42 so now
SO FAR
8 X TD
3 X V8
1 X TB
2 x TB/TURBO
SHAKES ONE OR THE OTHER, OVERALL YOU'D GO THE ???
brought td
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:17 pm
by MICK79CRUZA
hi thanks for tha advice (and the counter offroad rama)lol i brought a turbo d arfter all that prety happy with the buy see yas out there!!! mick.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:11 pm
by juls
I love turbos however NA are simple and reliable so the duel fuel V8 wins in a offroad 4wd.
If it was 99% on road or not my daily, I'd turbo the TB42 and enjoy the huge smile across my face every time I get out of it.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:50 pm
by bigbennymq
go diesel they go hard