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5.0/5.7 lt in gq wagon

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:35 pm
by skinna
has anyone put a 5lt or 5.7 crate motor in a qg 92 wagon how much dollars and hows it go with my 5sp box plus im wanting to use the gas i have on my 4.2 efi at the moment what do i need to do the job?????cheers skinna

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:40 pm
by demo2
Just put a 350sbc in an 89 GQ wiv 5 spd, a few small drama's but nothing major, plenny of grunt now. Cost about $4500 all up.

chev

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:18 pm
by skinna
what do i need as im goin to buy everything in one go and hopefully have it all in in a week there about
carbi or efi??

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:36 pm
by cooki_monsta
we measured up a ford boss 290 engine, and it would fit, alot of custom work tho

Re: chev

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:40 pm
by cooki_monsta
skinna wrote:what do i need as im goin to buy everything in one go and hopefully have it all in in a week there about
carbi or efi??
bell housing, engine mounts, cables, go a carby setup more fun to tune ;) when they work, um, maby input shaft? im sure some one else can help you there, but defo a custom bell housing

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:09 pm
by demo2
Bellhousing, block huggers, cable from a push bike 2 make throttle cable, extend wires etc. You will have 2 cut off old engine mounts and weld on new ones as well as make brkts for a/c pump and power steering etc.

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:29 pm
by RN
cooki_monsta wrote:we measured up a ford boss 290 engine, and it would fit, alot of custom work tho
What is a Boss 290..there were Boss 302 Windsors and then Boss 351 Clevelands and I think Boss 429 BB's...

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:34 am
by nastytroll
a true boss motor was a windsor bottom end with clevo heads which is why they had a special valley cover as the vee angle between the 2 is different, I'm not sure about the new BOSS 290 but I think is a 290 kw 5.4l
I also had thought of using one of these or a 4.6l supercharged mustang v8 chevs are the easiest conversion n the most common for parts
Best of luck

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:35 am
by jessie928
demo2 wrote:Bellhousing, block huggers, cable from a push bike 2 make throttle cable, extend wires etc. You will have 2 cut off old engine mounts and weld on new ones as well as make brkts for a/c pump and power steering etc.
mate your asking for trouble with the bike brake cable for your throttle.

Jes

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:14 am
by MitchellBros4x4
jessie928 wrote:
demo2 wrote:Bellhousing, block huggers, cable from a push bike 2 make throttle cable, extend wires etc. You will have 2 cut off old engine mounts and weld on new ones as well as make brkts for a/c pump and power steering etc.
mate your asking for trouble with the bike brake cable for your throttle.

Jes
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:01 am
by demo2
Why is that then? If u get 2mm cable i cant c a problem, i've been using a 2mm bike cable on my other car which has a V8 for 5 yrs with no drama's!
The thicker 2mm don't seem 2 fray at all which i guess normal size would.
Am i missing something?

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:47 pm
by Vulcanised
if you use a genuine holden cable it fits the nissan pedal with a very minor modification. It's what i have running on mine.

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:20 pm
by cooki_monsta
nastytroll wrote:a true boss motor was a windsor bottom end with clevo heads which is why they had a special valley cover as the vee angle between the 2 is different, I'm not sure about the new BOSS 290 but I think is a 290 kw 5.4l
I also had thought of using one of these or a 4.6l supercharged mustang v8 chevs are the easiest conversion n the most common for parts
Best of luck
that is correct, the boss 290 is a windsor bottom with a clevo head, its 290 kw and 5.4l or the boss 260 is 260kw and 5l both are out of b series fords

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:21 am
by demo2
Can someone fill me in on this cable issuec, cheers

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:19 am
by philhod
Hey Skinna it looks like it is doing a mono now. Might really do one with the 350 in it.

Have you got the new springs in it yet?

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:29 am
by jessie928
basically the bike cable quality is just that, a push bike, it only has to deal with 1 MP.

however I am sure you can get kits for race cars and the like that are 400% better than the bike stuff that would suit.

if your trusting your throttle on that cable, then more power to you :)

you can use a factory cable of many vehicles with very similar mounts and have peace of mind.

Jes

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:55 am
by RN
nastytroll wrote:a true boss motor was a windsor bottom end with clevo heads which is why they had a special valley cover as the vee angle between the 2 is different, I'm not sure about the new BOSS 290 but I think is a 290 kw 5.4l
I also had thought of using one of these or a 4.6l supercharged mustang v8 chevs are the easiest conversion n the most common for parts
Best of luck
showing my age here as in my day the Boss 302 and Boss 351 etc was the cubic capacity not the power output...

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:44 am
by cloughy
cooki_monsta wrote:
nastytroll wrote:a true boss motor was a windsor bottom end with clevo heads which is why they had a special valley cover as the vee angle between the 2 is different, I'm not sure about the new BOSS 290 but I think is a 290 kw 5.4l
I also had thought of using one of these or a 4.6l supercharged mustang v8 chevs are the easiest conversion n the most common for parts
Best of luck
that is correct, the boss 290 is a windsor bottom with a clevo head, its 290 kw and 5.4l or the boss 260 is 260kw and 5l both are out of b series fords
So did the quad overhead cams come from the windsor or the cleveland :roll: :rofl:

The 5.4 is a completely different engine, NOTHING to do with either a windsor or clevo.

By the way a NEW boss motor would be a more difficult fit than a chev, have you seen the size of those things across the heads :shock:

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:13 am
by nastytroll
the original quad cam fords were from the GT40 came in 289, 302, 351 n 427. Some found there way into shelby cobra's as caroll shelby did the development on the GT40 as it was originally a 4 cylinder Lola design bough by Henry jnr for La Manns
Dont know if the new Boss motors are a rework of the old ones

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:51 am
by cloughy

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:22 pm
by cooki_monsta
yea i have seen em, i see them 2 often, problem with living near a ford wrecking yard :D and i wanted to put the boss 290 in due to its ginominal torque :P thats why we measured, in theory it would fit :D

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:32 am
by sswaffie
mate go the 5.7 gen 3 as this is a easy conversion i have done too of these one into a 75 cruiser and one into a gq shortie engine mounts are easy to fab and marks offroad do the adapter kit. Engine & wiring harness and computer tune through a&r auto spares in melbourne they also supply the reverse sumps aswell these motors are easy and cheap to get good power out of as i put a supercharger on the one in the gq also supplied through a&r auto spares ...good luck mate, go with fuel injection and with 5.7 as the tech is a shit load better than the 5l and you canget half decent fuel econ aswell

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:40 am
by cloughy
sswaffie wrote:mate go the 5.7 gen 3 as this is a easy conversion i have done too of these one into a 75 cruiser and one into a gq shortie engine mounts are easy to fab and marks offroad do the adapter kit. Engine & wiring harness and computer tune through a&r auto spares in melbourne they also supply the reverse sumps aswell these motors are easy and cheap to get good power out of as i put a supercharger on the one in the gq also supplied through a&r auto spares ...good luck mate, go with fuel injection and with 5.7 as the tech is a shit load better than the 5l and you canget half decent fuel econ aswell
Tell me more about this blower??? Price??? what sort?? I'm putting a gen 3 in my jag, PM if you wish