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BODY LIFT WITH AIRBAGS

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:40 pm
by SHANE055
I've been told you can't do a body lift on a vehicle with safety airbags fitted is this because of a legal issue or because it's just not phsically possible due to the way the vehicle is set up.

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:04 pm
by Ruffy
Firstly stop YELLING at us!

There is no reason why you cant body lift a vehicle with air bags, Except to say that depending on the operating and actuating mechansims of the air bags you may either render them usless as they won't deploy unless you have an extremely serious impact or they may deploy in a minor impact when they normally wouldn't. Lastly there is the possibilty that it may have absolutely no effect whatsoever on the airbag operation. However you wont truly know until you stack it!
I would say though that a body lift would void any warranty you had on the airbag system.
The airbags are deployed by a series of sensors recognising a change of speed that is way outside the vehicles limits. Depending on howmany of the sensors are body and chassis mounted may vary the operation.
Cheers Dan

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:10 pm
by frp88
Ruffy wrote:Firstly stop YELLING at us!

There is no reason why you cant body lift a vehicle with air bags, Except to say that depending on the operating and actuating mechansims of the air bags you may either render them usless as they won't deploy unless you have an extremely serious impact or they may deploy in a minor impact when they normally wouldn't. Lastly there is the possibilty that it may have absolutely no effect whatsoever on the airbag operation. However you wont truly know until you stack it!
I would say though that a body lift would void any warranty you had on the airbag system.
The airbags are deployed by a series of sensors recognising a change of speed that is way outside the vehicles limits. Depending on howmany of the sensors are body and chassis mounted may vary the operation.
Cheers Dan
I thought you only do this on the 1st of april but funny all the same :rofl:

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:13 pm
by -Scott-
OK - when I read the title, I thought he was asking about using airbags as the spacers in a body lift.

I'm just relieved he's not that stupid. :lol:

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:17 pm
by goannaoffroad
Using air bags for a body lift would be hopeless the cab would bounce all over the place !!!!

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:20 pm
by Patchy
if you delibratly dissable your air bags by say pulling the fuse and you have an accident where someone is killed, where in the case had an airbag been deployed they would have survived. The insurance company can void you insurance and any hospital bills and other costs associated with the accident could be put onto you.... im sure other fines and penalties could be put onto the driver also

i dont know why anyone would knowingly dissable a safety item like an airbag, you usally only get one chance to use them. and there worth more still working than not working. next people will be removing their seat belt coz they dont like the creases they put in their shirts. if your tyres rub just trim them up a bit otherwise contact an engineer

IT'S NOT MY FAULT

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:50 pm
by SHANE055
Just so eveyone knows it's not my vehicle i don't have airbags and i already have a bodylift my brother is looking at buying a new dual cab (maybe Navara) and we're just trying to work out what mods we can do

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:04 pm
by Shorti
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:44 pm
by bigbennymq
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:02 am
by Wooders
You need to check what year model his rig is against the ADR that prohibits body lifts on SRS airbaged vehicles.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:47 pm
by MQSWBUTE
if its got airbags its not a real 4wd its a toorak tractor :D

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:58 pm
by YankeeDave
dont patrols and cruisers come with airbags? are they no longer considered real 4wds?

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:12 pm
by MQSWBUTE
YankeeDave wrote:dont patrols and cruisers come with airbags? are they no longer considered real 4wds?

crusiers have never been real 4wds :D

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:28 pm
by r0ck_m0nkey
-Scott- wrote:OK - when I read the title, I thought he was asking about using airbags as the spacers in a body lift.

I'm just relieved he's not that stupid. :lol:
It's not as stupid as it sounds. Many Trucks have their cabs mounted on Air Bags, they also have shock absorbers fitted aswell, although it is for added comfort. Unless of course it's a cab over Volvo, i am sure the design team set about trying to come up with the best way to get a truck driver sea sick.

SOME PEOPLE ARE STEALING OXYGEN

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:29 pm
by SHANE055
FOR A TECH SECTION THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE FILLING IT WITH BULLSHIT OPINIONS FAR FROM RELEVANT TO THE TOPIC. BUT TO EVERYONE WHO GAVE RELEVANT HELPFUL INFORMATION THANK YOU.

P.S. I KNOW WHERE THE CAPS LOCK BUTTON IS I HAD TO PUSH IT TO WRITE IN CAPITALS.

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:40 pm
by BOGAN V8
I think they mean that to push the button again and turn them off and write here in lower case :) :D :) :D

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:56 pm
by nicbeer
Stop SHOUTING.

Now talk to the DPI or whoever does the rego in your state and ask them. Also look at the regs on the dotars web site.

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:01 pm
by RockyF75
IF HE'S BUYING A NAVARA THAT WILL BE THE LEAST OF HIS WORRIES OK THANK YOU BYE OK

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:27 pm
by Ruffy
RockyF70 wrote:IF HE'S BUYING A NAVARA THAT WILL BE THE LEAST OF HIS WORRIES OK THANK YOU BYE OK
:rofl:

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:27 pm
by hilux_bondy_007
i would save the money on the body lift..go do a computer course learn typin and where keys are and buy a real 4wd. like a toyota or nissan

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:12 am
by zagan
Can't do airbag shocks instead?

They can go up and down.

wouldn't it be better to just bodylift with spacers rather than airbags, and then uprate the suspension?

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:56 pm
by Loanrangie
MQSWBUTE wrote:
YankeeDave wrote:dont patrols and cruisers come with airbags? are they no longer considered real 4wds?

crusiers have never been real 4wds :D

x 10000000000000000000000 :finger:

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:18 pm
by HotFourOk
You are the rudest person I have met on here.

Do you mean safety airbags or airbag suspension?
I think you mean safety airbags, coz no Nav comes with airbag suspension currently.

Tell him to spend the money on a decent lift anyway, or a decent car :finger:

P.S - You are rude. You are lucky you got one response.

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:26 pm
by RockyF75
HotFourOk wrote:
Tell him to spend the money on a decent lift anyway, or a decent car :finger:
Looks who's talking :D

Re: BODY LIFT WITH AIRBAGS

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:33 pm
by simkell
SHANE055 wrote:I'VE BEEN TOLD YOU CAN'T BODY LIFT A CAR WITH AIRBAGS IS THIS CAUSE OF SOMETHING IN THE WAY THEY'RE SET UP OR CAN IT BE DONE IF YOU DISABLE/REMOVE THE AIRBAGS

if you are talking about a body lift, i am certain it is ilegal to body lift a vehicle fitted with srs airbags.

if you are talking about airbag lift of body, i believe (could be wrong) that at least one point has to be a solid mount. personaly just use a solid lift.

or buy a good fourby to start with a cruiser :armsup:

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:56 pm
by HotFourOk
RockyF70 wrote:
HotFourOk wrote:
Tell him to spend the money on a decent lift anyway, or a decent car :finger:
Looks who's talking :D
You're not much better :finger:

Re: SOME PEOPLE ARE STEALING OXYGEN

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:34 pm
by Mowie
SHANE055 wrote:P.S. I KNOW WHERE THE CAPS LOCK BUTTON IS I HAD TO PUSH IT TO WRITE IN CAPITALS.
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TURN IT OFF!!!!!!!!!
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