Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Is it possible to engineer a 6 inch lift and 33 x12.5 or 35 x 12.5 ?
What are the loop holes ?

no

In QLD - the laws at present are (AFAIK).

Max legal BL is 2" and this must be approved by DMR directly so there are no loopholes.

Max Suspension lift is 1/3 of factory distance between axle and bump stop - so on most 4x4s somewhere between 1-2". No loopholes apart from going through a dodgy blue plater and risking issues later.

Tyres 15mm larger than the largest factory option for that exact vehicle.

also the only code is suspension front - design, so its very vague and will not stand up to a dot inspection / roadside cop etc. also the information of the blue plate inspection is only on the sheet of paper from the mod plater. The dot will NOT have a computer record - therefore you will need to carry the paper in the car at all times. some blue plates go onto the computer such as v8 conversion and seating capacity change

2" lift generally will fly under the radar.

I concur.

I did the body lift, and asked every which way I could think about the tyres. The (very knowledgeable) lady on the Vehicle Modifications line summed it up: they don't want large tyres in Queensland.

My body lift was passed very easily - they didn't attempt to measure the suspension lift, nor question the tyres (technically illegal - 31" tyres vs. 30" standard.)

I did 33" tyres anyway.

The Paj has been passed by the engineer in SA, and is booked in for final inspection. Then the fun starts with my Sigma.

Thats why I like the WA ICV laws. Body swap, engine swap, suspension lift, body lift and 35's on 15x10's engineered for $600 and leagally licenced as a new vehicle.
Hoppy

-Scott- wrote:(technically illegal - 31" tyres vs. 30" standard.)

should get a sticker from a j-top, 32s standard then the bacon cant really argue can they

j-top paj wrote:

-Scott- wrote:(technically illegal - 31" tyres vs. 30" standard.)

should get a sticker from a j-top, 32s standard then the bacon cant really argue can they

I've got one coming that says 33s.

why is this question continously asked?
just in case the powers that be have grown a brain:P

no it cant
2+2 and 33's if you have the right tyre placard.
and even then a 11 inch wide tyre must be on an 8.5 inch or larger rim.
but this then makes you track illegal
care to jump on the merry go round?

badger wrote:and even then a 11 inch wide tyre must be on an 8.5 inch or larger rim.

Where did this come from? My 285/75-16 are theoretically 11.2" wide, and are rated down to a 7.5" wide rim. Check out any tyre manufacturer's web site.

badger wrote:but this then makes you track illegal

Says who? Vehicles with solid axles front and rear are allowed a 51mm (? 2") increase in track; vehicles with IFS and/or IRS are permitted a 26mm increase in track.

Track is measured from centreline of tyre to centreline of tyre. Rim width DOES NOT affect your track - offset does. Offset is the distance between the centreline of the rim and the mounting face of the rim. Two different sets of rims with the same offset WILL produce the same track. Rim width has nothing to do with it. It is possible somebody found they couldn't fit the rim width they required without changing their offset - that would be an issue with the vehicle in question, not a legal limitation.

Perhaps people keep asking the same question because there's so much incorrect information out there?

-Scott- wrote:
Perhaps people keep asking the same question because there's so much incorrect information out there?

so maybe they should just ask the relevant authorities rather than rely on Internet chatter

Been through it with powers that be and there is a way to get it all aprooved BUT some one at DMR must sign it off THAT is what the problem is as no one is prepared to be responsable for a death as a result of a modified vehicle

grimbo wrote:

-Scott- wrote:
Perhaps people keep asking the same question because there's so much incorrect information out there?

so maybe they should just ask the relevant authorities rather than rely on Internet chatter

And get told seven different things by seven different ppl at the relevant authorities. GET IT IN WRITING from the authorities is the only way to cover your butt.

There is a simple answer to all this...

Find someone in NSW you know well transfer to NSW registration and register the vehicle at their address.....

stinger wrote:There is a simple answer to all this...

Find someone in NSW you know well transfer to NSW registration and register the vehicle at their address.....

not as simple as it seems... it works for 3 mths which you have to transfer to local rego when you move interstate, cause cops do notice things like that. They did when I did it on my bikes with Vic Rego/insurance which was 1/2 NSW stuff at the time.


also as I understand it, if a car is unroadworthy in QLD, but rego in NSW, it can still be defected...

Could you make your own tyre placard same as the original but for the sizes and affix it on there?

Would they notice or is it written down in their books also for each vehicle.

eg for a zook 205 is std, mod it for 235 instead. then 31s may be legal on there.

Nic

nicbeer wrote:Could you make your own tyre placard same as the original but for the sizes and affix it on there?

Would they notice or is it written down in their books also for each vehicle.

eg for a zook 205 is std, mod it for 235 instead. then 31s may be legal on there.

Nic

But wouldnt that be illegal cos you changed the tyre placard. If that was the case you could make that crappy sticker for $5 and sell heaps of them that say patrols came factory with every thing from a 29 on 15"rims to 54boggers on what ever size rim they come on. Also 54boggers where factory fitted.
It ai9nt going to happen and it aint going to be legal.......

Hoppy11 wrote:Thats why I like the WA ICV laws. Body swap, engine swap, suspension lift, body lift and 35's on 15x10's engineered for $600 and leagally licenced as a new vehicle.
Hoppy

Hoppy - can you give me more info on how you did all this and which engineer you went to?

I thought WA laws were pretty strict...?!?!?!

dunno on placard.

was mainly thinking do they look at that for there infomation or do they have there own black book.

Dont think my new zook has one on there at all, just thinking.

Nic

An "alternate" tyre placard may get you through a quick road-side check, but if you get called in for an inspection they'll pull out "War and Peace" to seek the truth.

so correct me if i am wrong
*an engineer can only approve what is set down by qld transport.
*if an engineer approves bigger lift and tyres it would still be illegal because qld transport don't allow it in their list of legal mods.
*you can put a v8 in a hilux but if you put bigger tryes on a patrol ,you will die
*QLD TRANSPORT are communists

in southern amaerican drool ' that is correct'

So we need to change our focus and get more scum to comit more serious crimes more often so the Cookie are to busy otherwise or make sure you're commiting three more serious crimes when you get pulled over cause all my cop mates (and i have a few) say unless they really don"t like you they'll only write 3 tickets at a time

dirtyGQ wrote:*you can put a v8 in a hilux

Only a small one too. 350 chev not allowed.

SHANE055 wrote:So we need to change our focus and get more scum to comit more serious crimes more often so the ***** are to busy otherwise or make sure you're commiting three more serious crimes when you get pulled over cause all my cop mates (and i have a few) say unless they really don"t like you they'll only write 3 tickets at a time

Yep and in Vic thats cos they can write it on one bit of paper that is already in triplecate. Anymore than 3 and they have to right a brief. Which means paper work and coppers are lazy bastards. Have alook at RN he's always on the net. (hi RN I do mean that in a nice way).

slosh wrote:

dirtyGQ wrote:*you can put a v8 in a hilux

Only a small one too. 350 chev not allowed.

Bloody QLD. I know of a couple of Hiluxs with 383's and one with a 454 in Vic. The bloke with the 383 used to put little race slicks on and race it.

From memory the old Fourbies Artic Pac 80 Series when through war and piece in NSW to get it engineered and regoed in NSW. I think he used his parents address in NSW. QLD Transport and Police whre very annoyed but could do nothing about it and it spent more time in Qld than in NSW.

My Theory is to by a small bush block in NSW rego the car there and drive it up and take it down to play in the bush block from time to time. Just need the money and time to put in into practice.

turps wrote:

slosh wrote:

dirtyGQ wrote:*you can put a v8 in a hilux

Only a small one too. 350 chev not allowed.

Bloody QLD. I know of a couple of Hiluxs with 383's and one with a 454 in Vic. The bloke with the 383 used to put little race slicks on and race it.

yeh, cause thats safe.....