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will a gq wagon fit 35x12.5 claws with 4 inch spring lift and no boby lift?

thanks nath

yes but you may need to trim rear gaurds a bit and fit radius arm spacers to front or trim the front guards too

cool thanks for the info

thanks nath

In a word NO. I have 4" springs with 30mm spacers and my 33" swampers tear at the rear guard. Went out on the weekend and a guy was running the radial 35/12.5 Claws, they still hit his rear gaurd with 5" springs and 25mm spacers thats where you want to be to get away with out gaurd chopping.

with a 4" lift, 15mm radius arm spacers and rear extended bumpstops you will clear 35's easy not a problem at all.

Interesting cause i had a 2" Sus and 2" body lift under my Mav and it cleared 35's no worries, no trimming either

How hard is it to exstend the rear bumpstops? I had 2" lift with a 1" gaurd chop and raduis arm spacers. Cleared 38s no worrys. I say 35s with 4" and rear bumpstop ext and radius spacers should work easily

I have 4" springs, no body lift, trimmed rear guards and front drop boxes which push the diff 12mm forward. Running 36" Centipedes the only places it rubs are the inner rear wheel tubs (Need to extend bumpstops) and the back of the front guards (Need to trim).

Dad runs 3" springs, no body lift, trimmed front and rear guards (All round), standard position front diff. Running Q78 Swampers the only place it rubs is the inner rear wheel tubs (Need to extend bumpstops).

Dave

mines got 4 inch springs 2 inch body and drop boxes that push the front forward 12mm, the rear quarters have been chopped and the 35s still just touch at full compression. Yes you can extend your bumpstops, but it will be at the expense of flex. trimmed guards still look good if the are done neatly. in my opinion suspension works better if it can fully compress. im about to fit 37s to mine, ill leave everything as is and just trim the guards to allow clearance

rim offset also play a part

well i have 7 inch coils and 35's with a quater chop and they still scrub something feirce.
on a gq there is no such thing as a lift that will stop 35's scrubbing. its all about bump stop extensions and gaurd chopping

to those that are against bump stop extensions you tell me what happens when the tyre binds in the gaurd not only do you have no more up travel but your tyre is bound up and without a locker your going nowhere

You'll always get scrubbing on the inner wheel arch at full tuck. No matter how high your lift. I had a guy try and tell me he didn't but then later got out of him that he had a ute.... so

4" + 35's is THE perfect combination imho. Still looks stock.

As has been said you will get fouling on the back of the rear gaurd which is rectified by trimming. You may not have problems with the front, if you do space it out.

JemmyBubbles wrote:You'll always get scrubbing on the inner wheel arch at full tuck. No matter how high your lift. I had a guy try and tell me he didn't but then later got out of him that he had a ute.... so

4" + 35's is THE perfect combination imho. Still looks stock.

As has been said you will get fouling on the back of the rear gaurd which is rectified by trimming. You may not have problems with the front, if you do space it out.

u do.

ours has got 4 inch spring and 2 inch body never had half the stuff u guys have done and none of it scrubs.all its got is.rear quater cut down new castor bushes and then brake lines.and the springs and suspension.our tires dnt rub on the front guards either

I had over 6inch sus + 40mm body and 33's rubbed on inners like others, but not guards or mudflaps...

My 34 Simexs never hit guards etc, but only the inner guards with the 4inch sus and 40mm body


As you can see from all the posts above, there is no YES - NO answer.. its try it and see.

j-top paj wrote:rim offset also play a part

Correct i have 35s on 15x8 landcruiser offset now with 4: susp lift and it still rubed so hard on the inner gaurd it stoped forwards progress.I put a set off wheel spacers on and it just made it scrub higher in the inner gaurd.

You guys are afraid of bumpstoping? Why it will give you more travel in the end.

adam penfold wrote:

JemmyBubbles wrote:You'll always get scrubbing on the inner wheel arch at full tuck. No matter how high your lift. I had a guy try and tell me he didn't but then later got out of him that he had a ute.... so

4" + 35's is THE perfect combination imho. Still looks stock.

As has been said you will get fouling on the back of the rear gaurd which is rectified by trimming. You may not have problems with the front, if you do space it out.

u do.

ours has got 4 inch spring and 2 inch body never had half the stuff u guys have done and none of it scrubs.all its got is.rear quater cut down new castor bushes and then brake lines.and the springs and suspension.our tires dnt rub on the front guards either

Of course it doesnt srub you prob got no flex.

wanna proove that . i should say the panhard rods have been lengthened and sleeved

how bout a pic of the tuck not the down travel
of couse its not gunna scrub in that pic.

ps that not very good flex for a 4 inch lift, standard with sway bars out will do that

not trying to flame you but ive never ever seen a gq wagon not scrub that has flex without bumpstop extensions

http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u111 ... 010120.jpg

i got fulli ulli poser shots too

o yer thats stopped on the petrol tank and its running 36's .1st shots bout 5 inches below the sill's.o yer u havnt seen it in person either.standed patrol would do that my ass

+In regards to the Radius arm spacers, I run teh Snake Drop arms radius which move the diff forward (about 10mm) would this move it forward enough?

patrol42 wrote:+In regards to the Radius arm spacers, I run teh Snake Drop arms radius which move the diff forward (about 10mm) would this move it forward enough?

Yes. that will be adequate for 35s.

adam penfold wrote:

do those coopers measure 35, they dont look that big in the pic, and correct me if im wrong, but i can see a shiny bit under the rear where the tyre has rubbed. my simexs only measure 34 and a bit and they just touch on the very back of the wheel arch. your rear is flexin ok, but your front doesnt look like its moving much

i still say it has no up travel.
who cares how far you can get the tyre below the sills we are talking about rubbing. its never going to rub on the down stroke, show a pic thats relevant to the thread wheel tucked up into gaurd with no touching and no extended bumpstop

as madmac said there is rub marks inside your arches anyway.
its is shown in the pic above to therefore your car does scrub on 35's (wich are barely even 34 real size) with 4 inch spring and 2 inch body

I have lengthened aftermarket panhards set up correctly and on full tuck you will get scrubbing on the inner wheel arch, unless you bump stop. We mean inner wheel arch not the gaurds...

Perhaps on your truck adam the wheel has found a sweet spot inbetween the body and chassis and isn't fowling all that much. But that sure looks like a shiny bit where it has been rubbing. Also perhaps you haven't had it fully tucked up yet and kept driving ?

edit: this isn't a pick on adam thing... its just to show that no matter how high the lift is you go you will still get scrubbing on the inner wheel arch unless you bumpstop before it fowls.

My girls gq wagon has 4"coils 2" body cut 1/4s front arm spacers 33"tyres on 15x8 cruiser offset wheels n 840mm rear shocks with 80mm rear bump stop extension scrubs like hell on rear, it ripped the screws n plastic inserts out of rear gaued before chop, my single cab ute has 7" spring 2" body n front spacers runs 37" no scrubbing on front it has 100mm dropped rear bump stops n 910mm shocks

hey mate they mesure 36's.and thats were weve grinded a lip iff in the guard due to we ran 37's it

thanks for an the info fellas it has helped heaps with my decision


cheers nath

badger wrote:i still say it has no up travel.
who cares how far you can get the tyre below the sills we are talking about rubbing. its never going to rub on the down stroke, show a pic thats relevant to the thread wheel tucked up into gaurd with no touching and no extended bumpstop

has urs had a guard chop ? due to ours hasnt either.its only been cut off at the quaters.i dnt want to ague i was just showing something.the tires hit the rear seat belt bolts in the guard and it stops