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PTO on HZJ105
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:35 pm
by giacomo.m
Hi all,
I would like to know if i could put one on part time HZJ105 solid axle,with maybe just a transfer modification.
this would serve in order to drive a hydraulic winch.
Thank you.
Giacomo
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:08 pm
by dumbdunce
yes. there are factory and aftermarket PTO boxes available. If you are only going to run a winch then it is cheaper and more efficient just to run a shaft to the winch at the front from the PTO box. However a hydraulic winch running off the PTO would be cool.
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:39 pm
by giacomo.m
Hi dumbdunce, and thank you for your reply.
which are the factory and aftermarket PTO boxes available ?
i would want to fit a Milemarker hydraulic winch.
Giacomo
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:51 pm
by dumbdunce
http://www.dbeh.com.au/index.php?id=46
PowAuto makes (or made) a PTO box to suit your transfer.
For a toyota PTO you will have to go to Toyota. The best way to get one would be second hand from an importer, one from an 80 series will fit.
PowAuto might have PTO box you can bolt a hydraulic pump to but you will probably need to do some custom fabrication to mount a pump and build a shaft.
cheers
DD
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:01 pm
by giacomo.m
I though to acquire a PTO like what he made Maxidrive for Land Rover.
exists in commerce one similar what ?
cheers
Giacomo
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:09 pm
by dumbdunce
giacomo.m wrote:I though to acquire a PTO like what he made Maxidrive for Land Rover.
exists in commerce one similar what ?
cheers
Giacomo
Hi Giacomo,
I'm sorry but I think this question is lost in translation!
to do what you want to do, you need a PTO Box to bolt to your transfer case; this is available from Toyota (difficult to find outside Japan), and from PowAuto (see URL). There may be others; these are the two that I know of.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:35 pm
by dumbdunce
HI,
it seems I may be mistaken about the availability of PTO for the 105 series, I had assumed the transfer is the same as for a part time 7x or 80 series, but apparently it is different, you will have to stick yopur head under and see if there is a PTO cover on the left side of the transfer case. If there is not, then the only PTO option you have available is a rear mounted PTO driving directly off the transfer case input shaft, which do exist but may be difficult to find.
apologies for the misinformation
cheers
DD
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:16 pm
by giacomo.m
Hi,
you speak about the factory Toyota ?
I believe of possession a HF1A transfer case
and what is a rear mounted PTO driving directly off the transfer case input shaft ?
cheers
Giacomo
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:25 pm
by dow50r
100 1hz diesels run R151 boxes and r transfers, as are the hzj78/9.....have a look in the ARB cattledog, im pretty sure they offer a PTO.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:37 pm
by giacomo.m
Hi dow50r
therefore : 1HZ engine - R151F boxe - HF1A part time transfer case.
what is ARB cattledog ?
thank you.
Giacomo
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:24 pm
by BUSTED100
giacomo.m wrote:Hi dow50r
what is ARB cattledog ?
thank you.
Giacomo
The ARB catalouge (there product broucher)
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:55 am
by smithie
Hi Giacomo.m, its good to have some international folks on this forum. I was in Italy for work last november, around Este/Monselice, it really is a beautiful place.
As for your HZJ105,
If you have the HF1A transfer case look for a cover plate on the LHS of the transfer. It should have 10 bolts (the BF1A transfer case has 6) and looks like this:
NB - the gearbox in this pic is a H150F
This is what a HF1A PTO unit looks like, although PTO's from other manufacturers may differ slightly:
This is a PTO attached to a HF1A
NB - the gearbox in this pic is a H151F
Hopefully this helps you out somewhat
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:09 pm
by giacomo.m
Hi smithie,
thank you for reply and the beautiful and technicals pics.
second your opinion it is possible to fit one hydraulic pump to PTO ?
it is Toyota genuine parts ? part number ?
and the assembly back is obliged for having the driveshaft ahead ?
sorry for all these questions.
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:49 pm
by smithie
G'day mate,
Glad you found the pics helpful.
Yes it should be possible to mount a hydraulic pump direct to the pto, but it would require some custom machining or brackets, and that would depend on the type of pto you get and the type of pump too.
Sorry but I dont know if this pto is a genuine Toyota one and I dont have toyota part numbers. I only had the photos on my computer.
I do have a POWAUTO pto unit at home though and can take photos if it would help you.
The standard position is for the driveshaft to face forward from the pto, however, on most pto's there is an identical plate on the other side of the unit and it should be too hard to have the driveshaft facing the rear. This is definantly the case with my POWAUTO pto.
no problems asking questions, thats what this tech forum is all about.
cheers.
dan
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:13 pm
by giacomo.m
G'day smithie,
thank you for your reply.,and for pics of POWAUTO pto unit.
I have tried more times to send email of info to POWAUTO, but without happening.
cheers.
Giacomo