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What colour wires are usually used for main line out to the st on phone lines ? i thought mine was red/ black but i cant get a dial tone.

Loanrangie wrote:What colour wires are usually used for main line out to the st on phone lines ? i thought mine was red/ black but i cant get a dial tone.

Thats the second line, I'm pretty sure its the blue and white.

..... now let me go run and hide before Helstra reads this .....

Thats what i thought, helstra can kiss my a..e, i ran all my cable anyway.

Loanrangie wrote:Thats what i thought, helstra can kiss my a..e, i ran all my cable anyway.

I tried this on an un-used line in my house, didn't get a tone. the line hadn't been connected in 3 years. When they came in and checked it, the line was cut at the pit. They stick a meter on it and it gives them the measurement. I got them to connect my first outlet, and i did the rest.

By default, Telstra try to use the blue & white pair for the 1st line, with the red & black being a spare pair in case the blue & white develops a fault.

Davidh wrote:By default, Telstra try to use the blue & white pair for the 1st line, with the red & black being a spare pair in case the blue & white develops a fault.

For some reason when i connected to the blue/ white pair i couldnt get any dial tone, i tried all combinations but still no good,.
I am nowing getting a local tech to fix it for me which is really annoying since i have installed 2 other points in the house with no problems
If i had something to test the line with i could have fixed it but i'm not about to buy stuff for 1 job.

Depends on the tech doing the job. Most I have seen lately have been red/black. If you have a meter check for voltage on the incoming side of the line. If you dont have any voltage it means it may be a telstra fault. Another way is bodge up a phone point with some alli clips and then you can use your home phone as a test phone

Is it a adsl line or standard phone line?

ADSL, if i had some ali clips i would have done that, will a test light work ?
i was sure it was red/ black before i cut the wires and i'm realy stumped why i cant get a tone and the bloody tech was suppose to be there at 3 today so i may have to rig it myself anyway.

Loanrangie wrote:ADSL, if i had some ali clips i would have done that, will a test light work ?
i was sure it was red/ black before i cut the wires and i'm realy stumped why i cant get a tone and the bloody tech was suppose to be there at 3 today so i may have to rig it myself anyway.

If its a adsl line it should have 80-90v on it. Check you have the voltage at the incomeing point and go from there. What exactly is it doing are you adding a new point or is it a new line?

Hold onto the white wire, then get someone to ring and hold onto the blue, 50v of fun...

phippsy wrote:Hold onto the white wire, then get someone to ring and hold onto the blue, 50v of fun...

Actually its 110 ringing volts

booflux wrote:

phippsy wrote:Hold onto the white wire, then get someone to ring and hold onto the blue, 50v of fun...

Actually its 110 ringing volts

Means I missed out the other day when I earthed myself whilst holding the white...

booflux wrote:

Loanrangie wrote:ADSL, if i had some ali clips i would have done that, will a test light work ?
i was sure it was red/ black before i cut the wires and i'm realy stumped why i cant get a tone and the bloody tech was suppose to be there at 3 today so i may have to rig it myself anyway.

If its a adsl line it should have 80-90v on it. Check you have the voltage at the incomeing point and go from there. What exactly is it doing are you adding a new point or is it a new line?

Normal voltage from the exchange is 48-52V DC. Ring is normally 75V AC. ADSl does nott change this as the DSL signal highband signal imposed over the normal speech signal.

The standard for the incoming line on a 2 pair cable is indead Blue and White, with the Red and Black used for a second sevice.

You may have had Dial tone on the Red and Black for a couple of reasons.
1. The house at one time had 2 services connected and the first one had been cancelled leaving working service on R&B.
2. The W&B was faulty so service moved to R&B.

Cable coming from the street will be a hard sheathed black cable. Internal cable will usually be white with a soft cable. To see if your problem is internal or outside in the Telstra world, find the first point where the black cable comes in if you can't get dial tone across any combination on the end of this cable with the internal cables disconnected, you will be waiting on Telstra. If it works there then Telstra won't help.

Alan
ex-Telstra tech.

Sportage wrote:

booflux wrote:

Loanrangie wrote:ADSL, if i had some ali clips i would have done that, will a test light work ?
i was sure it was red/ black before i cut the wires and i'm realy stumped why i cant get a tone and the bloody tech was suppose to be there at 3 today so i may have to rig it myself anyway.

If its a adsl line it should have 80-90v on it. Check you have the voltage at the incomeing point and go from there. What exactly is it doing are you adding a new point or is it a new line?

Normal voltage from the exchange is 48-52V DC. Ring is normally 75V AC. ADSl does nott change this as the DSL signal highband signal imposed over the normal speech signal.

The standard for the incoming line on a 2 pair cable is indead Blue and White, with the Red and Black used for a second sevice.

You may have had Dial tone on the Red and Black for a couple of reasons.
1. The house at one time had 2 services connected and the first one had been cancelled leaving working service on R&B.
2. The W&B was faulty so service moved to R&B.

Cable coming from the street will be a hard sheathed black cable. Internal cable will usually be white with a soft cable. To see if your problem is internal or outside in the Telstra world, find the first point where the black cable comes in if you can't get dial tone across any combination on the end of this cable with the internal cables disconnected, you will be waiting on Telstra. If it works there then Telstra won't help.

Alan
ex-Telstra tech.

Mate since the privatisation of telstra has seen the increased use of subbies there are more an more lines no longer being done on white blue. It seems they pick whatever pair they wish.

Well after the f..ker i called to come out and fix it didnt turn up i decided to crawl under the house and have another go, this time with a spare handset and bodged testing tools and fark me that just before the cable dissappears into the conduit there are another set of joiners and the red wire was just hanging there by the sheath but broken , so after all that i had it wired correctly the first time (as i was convinced) , well at least all is good now and the guy not turning up saved me $90

If i want to run a cable to another room for my computer do i just piggy back off an existing plug somewhere?

I am presuming this is the case but some dude told me you can't do that. I'm thinking he just didn't want me doing it myself.

Ruffy
The simplest way is to ga and buy an extention lead and run it to where you want it from another socket. It will work and ADSL modem and can be ran under mats, thru roofs, under floors and if you need to take the plug offf to get it thru a hole then simply put it back the way you took it apart. If you are going thru the roof or under the house you can use a hook on the end of a pipe to hook out the cable saving you from entering the cramped space.
Alternatively call in an expert
Jonesy