Outer Limits 4x4 Board

hi guys

I just thought i would start this thread for any of those that could give some helpfully hints and tips for someone that has done bugger all 4wding and has a SWB ..

My main fear is being a shorty doing what they do best is lift tyre off the ground and stuff like that.

I been told when going up steep inclines such as "Telcom Hill" at LCMP that might car will wanna try flip back as such a steep hill...

Sounds kinda farking scary for a learner .. i just wounder what else i'll have problems with at LCMP..

Thanks for any tips and stuff or pics and not what to do things etc..

Cheers

Rick.

dont worry ull shit ya pants well before ull roll it

killer_garden_gnome wrote:dont worry ull shit ya pants well before ull roll it

I hope so

To much $$$ put into it to roll it the first time a cruiser park that's why i was after some tips etc before i do something i regreat ...

Thanks

Rick.

Mate they go over backwards easier than the lwb but i have taken it on a couple of good hills just try to keep front wheels on the ground.(take it steady)

Well how about instead of driving dumbarse step hills. Just drive some stuff and get used to it.
I have had swb's now for 8yrs and I have found petrols lift wheels heaps easier than my old Diesel did.

turps wrote:Well how about instead of driving dumbarse step hills. Just drive some stuff and get used to it.
I have had swb's now for 8yrs and I have found petrols lift wheels heaps easier than my old Diesel did.

yeah and my petrol has a turbo now

Thanks alot

Rick.

My suggestion is to get together with some of the guys that are heading out into Glasshouse and/or the similar areas, let them know that you are not real confident and take it easy. The more to do, the more confident you will become. Like one of the other guys has already said, start out simple and work your way up. If you hesitate when you start on the big stuff you'll come undone.

My 2c worth.

I had abit of experience with 4wds when I got mine. Best thing I did was just get out there and play with it. If you go to one of the parks. I wouldn't drive anything to start off with that says you may need to winch or need big arse tyres and lockers.
Get out in the bush and drive stuff. Generly most bush tracks range from Commodore friendly up to Mild off-road. So get out an play on those.

Yeah guys i'm planning on taking it easy so i can get the hang of things..

I was going to go to glasshouse the weekend just past but kinda whimped out becuase i heard there are some pretty nuts tracks out there..

Becuase mine is a XLT it came with factory diff lock as well so that will help with wheel stands ...

Cheers for ya help

Rick.

take it easy on the gas and you should be right.

if you have no experience offroad, why are you spending so much money on your truck to get more power?

IMWO, your much better off to learn the limitations of the stock truck offroad, which would be easier to drive as well offroad before worrying about other shit that you read about in maggos and on forums. specially with the nightmares you have been having with yours.

bogged wrote:if you have no experience offroad, why are you spending so much money on your truck to get more power?

IMWO, your much better off to learn the limitations of the stock truck offroad, which would be easier to drive as well offroad before worrying about other shit that you read about in maggos and on forums. specially with the nightmares you have been having with yours.

Yeah mate i agree completely i was thinking of a intercooler and stuff but hanging off that idea at this stage and going to fix a few other things up first like tailshaft/uni vibration and some sort of rear bar.. and fit my twin gas tank set up..

Car has only been lifted a few weeks now so i'm busting to get out and have a crack at 4wding as i have don't fark all... Just wanted to get a few oppions before i head out for the first time..

Cheers

Rick.

do a driver course.

Rick if you like, I'd be happy to take you out to Glass house for a couple of hours just to do a couple of easy runs .

There's a variety of tracks there that would be good for you to learn on & a couple of harder ones that you could try if you're feeling up to it .

Only been there the once myself but don't have to venture far. It'll give you a chance to get that first drive outta the way before you head to Cruiser park.

Offer's there if you want it

join a club

GU BUG wrote:Rick if you like, I'd be happy to take you out to Glass house for a couple of hours just to do a couple of easy runs .

There's a variety of tracks there that would be good for you to learn on & a couple of harder ones that you could try if you're feeling up to it .

Only been there the once myself but don't have to venture far. It'll give you a chance to get that first drive outta the way before you head to Cruiser park.

Offer's there if you want it

Yeah mate thanks might take up ya offer..

I know there are a few people thinking of a trip there this weekend i'm going to try make it saturday so that way ya have Sunday to do other things or whatever...



I wouldn't mind joining a club would be pretty good traveling in a big pack.

Cheers

Rick.

Mulisha wrote:
I wouldn't mind joining a club would be pretty good traveling in a big pack.

Cheers

Rick.

Hahaha you will get over that pretty fast..

More cars means more shit to go wrong once you get into the swing of things.

Rhysta wrote:

Mulisha wrote:
I wouldn't mind joining a club would be pretty good traveling in a big pack.

Cheers

Rick.

Hahaha you will get over that pretty fast..

More cars means more shit to go wrong once you get into the swing of things.

yeah but u get that with anything really so u just take it as it comes.. meeting new people is the best bit.

cheers

Rick.

shakes wrote:do a driver course.

or even a 4wding course..

Just get out there and have a go. You learn from experience, good or bad!!

I put mine over on 3 occasions, over the front, over 2 times on LH (270)side and over onto the side(90). I found when racing thanks to some good advice from Rowan Canavan to put a couple of extra pounds of air in the RHR tyre as my pig used to torque steer as the boost came on, I'd be constantly crashing on the left, this worked well with the 36 12.5 simexes I run.
When cresting big hills, back off at the top, keep the wheels down.
Youll find it hard to steer under boost as the front gets very light on some tracks, move as much weight forward as you can, put that extra gas tank up agaist the drivers seat not at the very back, put the spare in the car not hanging over the rear.
Have fun and good luck....my new car is a mid wheelbase.

Joel

if your new to 4WDing, y get the lift kit and rear bar happening b4 u know if you will even need it? im still running a stock truck and the only mod i intend to make in the near future is a snorkle and maybe a winch in the next 18 months.

learn how she goes stock, learn how to drive it offroad. when you find something that you cant tackle then take a breather and try again until you are 100% certain that its the truck thats stopping you, not your lack of expirience, THEN start modding...
the most cappable truck in the world wont make you a good driver until you get out there and just SLOWLY test your limits...


by all means take what i say with a grain of salt, as i am the first to admit that iv only been driving fourbies for a lil while, but the basic principle still applies no matter how long youve done it, build upto things first!





its great that your asking all these questions, coz im doin the same sorta thing on here atm. but these guys (mostly) know what they are talkin about, listen to em, and when they tell you sumthin you dont agree with, dont argue about it, take there point into consideration...


ok thats my winge for a while, works givin me the shits so appologies if i have neglected the sugarcoating tonight...

Macca

Join a club.

Do the driver training.

Practice on easy stuff.

Jump in with a few experienced drivers on some harder stuff and watch what they do and get a feel for it before you try anything too challenging yourself.

and all will be



You can always jump headfirst in and learn as you go as some have suggested but you will bend your rig as you learn.

do the rear bar n sliders first so no panel damage, get in with a good club with experienced people that will teach you how to pick a good line, n have fun. A word of advice if you panic you will have damage keep a clear head n drive smart.
I started with detroit front locker 6" lift A frame 35" bfg at's warn xd 9000lb winch and intercooled td42 turbo, drove around with a few winch challenge and rock crawler guys then started some more serious mods. Most pannel damage I've done apart from scratches from lantana n sticks was broken rh indicator in grill n drivers mirror, plus the occasional cv or 10.
So with a smart aproach n some sliders you can do all the tracks without masive damage but trottle control is the key

Living on the sunny coast is good for you the Sunshine Coast 4X4 Club is right up your ally, do a search for a contact number, but I'm sure that someone here will be able to point you in thier direction. Joining a club is a good way to go for beginners most clubbys are more than happy to show how to do things so as to not damage your truck or the environment.

I learnt in my car, still am learning just tackle little stuff first get the basics down, people might laugh at ya cause its easy stuff but its all about the basics with any sport. main thing is if you dont want to DONT.

its your rig your driveing its your CHOICE what you do

yellowrunner2 wrote:Living on the sunny coast is good for you the Sunshine Coast 4X4 Club is right up your ally, do a search for a contact number, but I'm sure that someone here will be able to point you in thier direction. Joining a club is a good way to go for beginners most clubbys are more than happy to show how to do things so as to not damage your truck or the environment.

a few years ago they're where lucky if there was half a dozen trips a year that the cars even left the black stuff, let alone get put into low range. it may be different now days though

A mate and i will be out the back of yandina this weekend if you want to join us, we have a couple of old 60's come have some fun not extreme, we have'nt bent anything yet we don't have winches and i cut my teeth there not so long ago. Have a run in one of ours then have a go yourself if you like.

Grant

GT60 wrote:A mate and i will be out the back of yandina this weekend if you want to join us, we have a couple of old 60's come have some fun not extreme, we have'nt bent anything yet we don't have winches and i cut my teeth there not so long ago. Have a run in one of ours then have a go yourself if you like.

Grant

Cheers mate

I will get in touch with u later this week i'll send u a PM as i may have to work this Saturday becuase of the day off today..

Thanks

Rick.

Fark new to 4bying hey, after the turbo and all.......

You will never experience a end over in a SWB if you are taking your time..

The only way you would end over is if you had a head full of steam and too late... crawling you would feel it before it came.

Good excuse for lockers front and rear, less need for momentum then.