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Is this notch out factory?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:17 pm
by bubs
In my 1973 SIIA pickup I have it has this notch in the passenger side chassis rail. The welding matches the rest of the rail and almost looks factory from the finish of it. But it sort of looks out of place, so is it factory or not?

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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:18 pm
by ISUZUROVER
NO

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:33 pm
by bubs
ok thanks

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:44 pm
by Slunnie
Bubs, what are you doing with it?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:58 pm
by bubs
Slunnie wrote:Bubs, what are you doing with it?
keeping it and fixing the chassis rail by the sounds of it :lol:

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:00 pm
by Slunnie
:lol:

I was half expecting to hear Chev, linked, portals and 44's. :cool:

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:04 pm
by bubs
Slunnie wrote::lol:

I was half expecting to hear Chev, linked, portals and 44's. :cool:
Lexus, linked, GU rear, 80/GQ front. I was gunna build a cruiser but this was a steal.

This one has the salisbury rear too, was that normal for a 73 S11?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:05 pm
by ISUZUROVER
bubs wrote:
Slunnie wrote:Bubs, what are you doing with it?
keeping it and fixing the chassis rail by the sounds of it :lol:
On looking at it some more - it does look very neatly done. And is the lower edge folded rather than welded?

I must have seen a few hundred IIA's, and I have never seen one like that - but LR did build a few weird specials. Any more info on what engine and gearbox were fitted?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:10 pm
by bubs
ISUZUROVER wrote:
bubs wrote:
Slunnie wrote:Bubs, what are you doing with it?
keeping it and fixing the chassis rail by the sounds of it :lol:
On looking at it some more - it does look very neatly done. And is the lower edge folded rather than welded?

I must have seen a few hundred IIA's, and I have never seen one like that - but LR did build a few weird specials. Any more info on what engine and gearbox were fitted?
Lower edge is folded, It had a Izusu 3.3L diesel, which came no where near this section of the chassis. Like I said up close which I dont have a closer pic, it looks factory, the welding is an exact match to the rest of the rail (eg the same person welded it) but it still looks out of place. I dont know what was the factory engine was.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:19 pm
by KiwiBacon
bubs wrote: Lower edge is folded, It had a Izusu 3.3L diesel,
That'll be a 4BC2. Shares many parts with a 4BD1. I suppose it's got one of those rare gearbox adaptors.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:20 pm
by ISUZUROVER
Possible engines were 2.25 Petrol, 2.25 Diesel, or 2.6L 6cyl petrol - but none of them came standard with that notch. 6 cyl versions had a different firewall and trans tunnel, but unless you have a 4cyl one for comparison that is hard to pick.

Oh, btw - that is a SIII, not a SIIA. SIIA's finished at the end of 1971, and they didn't have the bracing strut between the chassis rail and the firewall outrigger (visible in your photo).

EDIT - looks like a 6cyl firewall from the pic.
- what are you doing with the 4BC2?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:21 pm
by bubs
ISUZUROVER wrote:Possible engines were 2.25 Petrol, 2.25 Diesel, or 2.6L 6cyl petrol - but none of them came standard with that notch. 6 cyl versions had a different firewall and trans tunnel, but unless you have a 4cyl one for comparison that is hard to pick.

Oh, btw - that is a SIII, not a SIIA. SIIA's finished at the end of 1971, and they didn't have the bracing strut between the chassis rail and the firewall outrigger (visible in your photo).
ok thanks on the SIII clarification

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:29 pm
by mickyd555
looks like those three bolts were too short and the bolt shop was closed so they modded the rail.

Thats what i would do anyway :D

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:39 pm
by 1103.9TD
Good place to store the odd washer!. :lol:

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:47 pm
by Slunnie
bubs wrote:
ISUZUROVER wrote:
bubs wrote:
Slunnie wrote:Bubs, what are you doing with it?
keeping it and fixing the chassis rail by the sounds of it :lol:
On looking at it some more - it does look very neatly done. And is the lower edge folded rather than welded?

I must have seen a few hundred IIA's, and I have never seen one like that - but LR did build a few weird specials. Any more info on what engine and gearbox were fitted?
Lower edge is folded, It had a Izusu 3.3L diesel, which came no where near this section of the chassis. Like I said up close which I dont have a closer pic, it looks factory, the welding is an exact match to the rest of the rail (eg the same person welded it) but it still looks out of place. I dont know what was the factory engine was.
Trolling back through my pic archives, my SWB IIa had a similar cutout. That one had the Datsun ED30 + Sp, which is probably very similar if not the same as the ED33. The cutout was where part of the gearbox or started came in next to the chassis in the conversion. Its not a factory conversion, but I think it was probably a common enough conversion that was done aftermarket. That setup had unreal low range gearing and the motor would lug well.

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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:49 pm
by Slunnie
bubs wrote:
Slunnie wrote::lol:

I was half expecting to hear Chev, linked, portals and 44's. :cool:
Lexus, linked, GU rear, 80/GQ front. I was gunna build a cruiser but this was a steal.

This one has the salisbury rear too, was that normal for a 73 S11?
Love it! :armsup: Definately going to follow this build!

I think the Series3's had Salisburys, but not the IIa's. Strangely my IIa SWB wagon came with a Salisbury for some reason.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:10 pm
by ISUZUROVER
bubs wrote:
Slunnie wrote::lol:

I was half expecting to hear Chev, linked, portals and 44's. :cool:
Lexus, linked, GU rear, 80/GQ front. I was gunna build a cruiser but this was a steal.

This one has the salisbury rear too, was that normal for a 73 S11?
Missed that - will be an interesting build. All 109" (LWB) SIII's had the Salisbury rear. How much do you want for it?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:30 pm
by bubs
ISUZUROVER wrote:
bubs wrote:
Slunnie wrote::lol:

I was half expecting to hear Chev, linked, portals and 44's. :cool:
Lexus, linked, GU rear, 80/GQ front. I was gunna build a cruiser but this was a steal.

This one has the salisbury rear too, was that normal for a 73 S11?
Missed that - will be an interesting build. All 109" (LWB) SIII's had the Salisbury rear. How much do you want for it?
for the salisbury - $300

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:05 pm
by bubs
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In all her glory

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Definately a 3 cause it says "Landrover 3"

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Salisbury rear

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 7:22 pm
by nottie
If that is the 4.7 type of salisbury then you can get them from up gympie way for $200.00 each. Just need to remember the name of the rangie landy wreckers :idea:

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:16 am
by Utemad
That would be Allan at Gold City Land Rover Spares and Repairs.

http://www.landroverspares.com.au/