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cheap play toy, what to buy?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:03 pm
by j-top paj
im after a cheap 4wd that i can turn into something decent offroad and not worry about damage (looks not mechanical) BUT still be able to drive onroad without the bacon hassling me all the time.

was originally thinking a zook, doing some lift and grinder work and squeezing a set of 33s under it or something.
but im open to any suggestions..

other options were a GQ MQ MK shorty, lux possibly :? (worried about blowing diffs)

still thinking zook because of the cheap price tag attached as a mate just purchased one with 6months rego and in good nic for $1500..

any other 4wds to think about??

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:33 pm
by built4thrashing
cheap options are early hilux, daihatsu rocky, LADA, aisia rocksta, and zooks.

zooks and hilux are easier as more parts are available after market

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:36 pm
by udm
and how about a 40

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:46 pm
by Gwagensteve
I reckon the $$$ for return thing makes the zook the way to go. Also, aftermarket support for sierras is unbeatable.

MQ/MK's are cool but will be hard to match the capability and running costs of the zook. If you don't really need the room, go the sierra.

Just my 2C

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:58 pm
by j-top paj
what does a 40 go for?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:08 pm
by -Scott-
A j-top paj?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:13 pm
by j-top paj
:lol: i have been thinking that, but what motor options do i have? and how much coin?
also by the time i get it sorted i would have to go or a blue slip too.

and it would still be IFS :cry:
after driving the trol offroad and the jabber down the same track just after its two totally different vehicles.
the jabber does win hands down onroad but..

i wish it was still running :cry:

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:59 pm
by Mad Cruiser
Paj :finger:

Throw in a commodore engine and GQ diffs ;) No more IFS

Come on use your imagination

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:09 am
by nastytroll
early gq these are cheap n prooven performers n have everything available for them now, look at whats running gq running gear n what wins most comps, if you cant build a real tuff gq for under 10k there is something wrong

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:44 pm
by built4thrashing
can build a good lux or zook for under $5000.

I did.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:51 pm
by v840
Yeah, Id go the zook. So far for mine Ive got bundy rear diff locked, hilux front airlocked, spare complete diff, 4age just rebuilt, 2.5in exhaust, SOA, UHF stereo, 12 months rego,and the actual zook itself and Im just shy of $3000.

Now I just got to put it all together ;)
Add gears, tyres and cage and I reckon I'll still be under $5000 and have a beater that I can wheel the piss out of for years :armsup:

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:16 pm
by OISTA
Mad Cruiser wrote:Paj :finger:

Throw in a commodore engine and GQ diffs ;) No more IFS

Come on use your imagination
What about Diesel Chev and Mog diffs :lol:

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:46 pm
by j-top paj
v840 wrote:Yeah, Id go the zook. So far for mine Ive got bundy rear diff locked, hilux front airlocked, spare complete diff, 4age just rebuilt, 2.5in exhaust, SOA, UHF stereo, 12 months rego,and the actual zook itself and Im just shy of $3000.

Now I just got to put it all together ;)
Add gears, tyres and cage and I reckon I'll still be under $5000 and have a beater that I can wheel the piss out of for years :armsup:

all that for 3k? :shock:

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:02 pm
by badger
http://carl.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?t=104755

mq/mk wagon with body lift, shackles, 35's and a welded rear. cheap reliable, strong and alot more capable than you would ever think

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:03 pm
by frp88
Zooks big + is weight or lack off the - is its to short in wheel base unless you can get lwb.I feel my middie has a great wheel base and tonnes off room and if you don't mind nissan I would recommend short gq 4.2 oiler thats my 2c worth :D

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:52 pm
by Loanrangie
rangie with either gq or 80 series diffs.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:17 pm
by j-top paj
nice looking MQ :cool:
i wouldnt mind something like that..
atm im open to any suggestions.
a while ago i saw a nice MQ i think it was with 35s and some :cool: flex etc... going for around 3k. thats when the ideas started

Re: cheap play toy, what to buy?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:25 pm
by DNA Off Road
j-top paj wrote:im after a cheap 4wd...
GU nissan :P :P

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:32 am
by Sportage
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/KIA-SPORTAGE-97- ... dZViewItem

Very capable. Short body has better departure angle.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:59 am
by v840
j-top paj wrote:
v840 wrote:Yeah, Id go the zook. So far for mine Ive got bundy rear diff locked, hilux front airlocked, spare complete diff, 4age just rebuilt, 2.5in exhaust, SOA, UHF stereo, 12 months rego,and the actual zook itself and Im just shy of $3000.

Now I just got to put it all together ;)
Add gears, tyres and cage and I reckon I'll still be under $5000 and have a beater that I can wheel the piss out of for years :armsup:

all that for 3k? :shock:
Ive been patient and got most (all) of it 2nd hand and cheaply. Im on a tightarse budget (who isnt?) but managed to get the zook cheaply with a cactus engine and rebuilt it myself slowly.
Without money, parts gathering is a slow game but bargains are there if you're looking for them.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:02 am
by mattstar
I am chasing a cheap MQ/MK patrol, diesel is the only must have. If anyone can help me out please pm,
sorry for the hijack

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:09 am
by chimpboy
MQ shorty, and some tyres, and you're good to go imho.

Sierra would be good too I guess, a few more bolt-on bits around.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:35 am
by patrol42
OISTA wrote:What about Diesel Chev and Mog diffs :lol:
Why not just a Mog ;) Cheaper than you think...

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 5:20 pm
by jop
j-top, alloy v8, sas


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what's wrong with your paj? did you break it bad

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 7:16 pm
by Eddy
Zook or MQ /MK



Or a lada if you spot one.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:21 pm
by j-top paj
jop wrote:j-top, alloy v8, sas


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what's wrong with your paj? did you break it bad

timing belt basically.. i dont have the time or the patience to do it myself

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:22 pm
by j-top paj
Eddy wrote:Zook or MQ /MK



Or a lada if you spot one.
thats what i been thinking, but il take anything that comes my way at the right price and if it s convenient.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:23 pm
by j-top paj
patrol42 wrote:
OISTA wrote:What about Diesel Chev and Mog diffs :lol:
Why not just a Mog ;) Cheaper than you think...

id love a mog, but dont think i could afford it

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:38 pm
by pongo
sounds like you need to take my LWB deep frier for a wheel.

If only my Lsd can work propperly. Just need to sort out 1 hub and im back wheeling ;)

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:41 pm
by j-top paj
how much you gona sell it to me for? do the 35s come with it? :armsup: