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lifting front wheel
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:46 pm
by GRINCH
ive got a gq wagon and when i drive a steep hill it wants to torque the front pasenger side wheel off the ground. im just wondering if this is normal and is there any thing i can do to stop it.
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:55 pm
by marko
lockers
Re: lifting front wheel
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:02 pm
by tna racing
GRINCH wrote:ive got a gq wagon and when i drive a steep hill it wants to torque the front pasenger side wheel off the ground. im just wondering if this is normal and is there any thing i can do to stop it.
ours does it so does my brothers inlaws but any others i dnt see do it ours are rb30's might be a weight thing
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:53 pm
by j-top paj
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:53 pm
by j-top paj
especially in the front
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:57 pm
by tna racing
yer some times it helps
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:04 am
by j-top paj
some time?
lockers help all the time
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:05 am
by tna racing
j-top paj wrote:some time?
lockers help all the time
sucks wen they over help lol
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:22 am
by GRINCH
marko wrote: lockers
a front might help, but a rear will only make things worse.
but the weight thing make makes sence
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:30 am
by DAV029
j-top paj wrote:marko wrote: lockers
X2
x3
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 8:24 am
by bru21
mine does that on the street lol
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:25 am
by dirtyGQ
bitoff topi but lockrs can make things harder if not used correctly, i was doing landrover hill at roverpark (scraping on pumpkin) and was turning the corner to go over the rock ledge. But was struggling ..kept excesively spinning and puulling me in the wrong direction...switched it off and drove the corner without a hassle..re-engaed it again to climb th rock face.
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:48 pm
by badger
i was going to say the same thing bru.
never had much of an issue offroad tho. unless i try to do it
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:36 pm
by Nelso
Drive a shorty and you'll do it everywhere.
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:23 pm
by lay80n
Its due to torque reaction from the motor, combined with patrols lower roll stiffness in the rear and biased front to rear travel. As the weight moves to the rear (climbing), and you apply the right boot, the torque from the motor tries to turn the chassis opposit to the driveshaft dirrrection (if you want to see what i mean get an auto can and watch the motor lurch to the left when its stalled up). Because of the inboard rear springs (compared to the outboard front springs) and the greater force on the rear suspension due to weight transfer, the front passenger will lift. It can be changed with different suspension link geometry, as well as correcting the roll stiffness issue. Lockers will lessen the effect as they allow smoother lower reving driving, and better traction.
Layto....
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:43 pm
by its aford not a nissan
i lifted my front wheel today actually the whole front lifted but felt loss of steering for a sec while taking off to merge into traffic
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:49 pm
by ST391GQ
Also could be because RB30 Dattos dont have a front stabiliser as standard....well mine doesnt anyhow.
Cheers Keith
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:49 pm
by txhog
its aford not a nissan wrote:i lifted my front wheel today actually the whole front lifted but felt loss of steering for a sec while taking off to merge into traffic
Thats what you get driving a 9 Seat car with rear wheel drive, Toyota Taragos pop them front left wheel as well, crazy stuff
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:23 pm
by tna racing
ST391GQ wrote:Also could be because RB30 Dattos dont have a front stabiliser as standard....well mine doesnt anyhow.
Cheers Keith
our duz
Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 5:03 pm
by Big Red Toy
bru21 wrote:mine does that on the street lol
X2
Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:56 am
by lay80n
txhog wrote:its aford not a nissan wrote:i lifted my front wheel today actually the whole front lifted but felt loss of steering for a sec while taking off to merge into traffic
Thats what you get driving a 9 Seat car with rear wheel drive, Toyota Taragos pop them front left wheel as well, crazy stuff
Are toyota tarago's transverse motors? If so they wont lift eh LHF wheel as there is no torque twist through the chassis from the driveline.
Layto....
Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:47 pm
by tna racing
i thought the were front wheel drives
Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:29 pm
by zuffen
RWD longitudinal engine laying on its side
Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:30 pm
by tna racing
is this for the 07 my mates spins front wheels (tarago)