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Tube Buggy

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 7:10 pm
by Strange Rover
Actually started welding today so hopefully this thing should happen fairly quickly.

Specs are going to be:-

4.4L P67 motor with rover heads
ZF auto
lt230 transfer with stock 3.3 gears
rover/toy hybrid diffs with 4.3 centres and longfields

Planning on using lots of rover stuff in this rig. Things like pedals, steering, brakes, dash (eventually), springs, and standard rover axle housing mountings (which means radius arms for the front and still using the stock centre ball joint in the rear).

Wheel base will be a stock 100 inches and basically all the major components (like motor/gearbox/transfer , axles , steering box, panhard etc) will all be in standard locations relative to each other. Which means that I will be using standard drive shafts also. Doing this makes it alot easier because Im basically just measuring of my disco to work out all the critical dimensions. Hopefully it will be running less than 3in of lift over stock as far as the front diff is concerned to try to keep all the front geometry not too far out of wack.

I want to run at least a 37in tyre for street work and will probably end up with my 42s on it for trailered wheeling.

The killer for all this is that Im hopping that I can get it fully street legal and properly street registered on 37in tyres. There are lots of hoops to jump through to get this but it is possible.

Should have something worth taking a pic of by the end of the weekend.

:cool:

Sam

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 7:39 pm
by Flange Raider
oooooh Sam.... :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup:

I can't WAIT to see this thing..

just in time for :x-mas:

:lol: :twisted: :lol:

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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 8:35 pm
by humphey
sam when that one is finished can i have one ? ;) mate if its as good as the mog it will kick butt , nothin unusal for u blokes . :armsup: :armsup: :armsup:

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 9:54 pm
by POS
Sam,

I know how much you love Skid steer and we all know how well it works, are you not incorporating this into the buggy. I know it will be light, but to have the ability to turn like you do is a definate advantage!

Is the T/case able to be split??

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:05 pm
by Strange Rover
Yep - rover transfer case will do this in stock form - just dont know for how long.

Sam

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:20 pm
by POS
Strange Rover wrote:Yep - rover transfer case will do this in stock form - just dont know for how long.

Sam


:lol: :lol: :rofl: :lol:

Longer than a Lux case would! :lol: :lol:

It would be good to marry a Rover t/case to a hilux T/case. Twin cases and the ability for front wheel drive! Like what the Yanks have done with the Toy/Dana 300 set-up!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:40 pm
by Strange Rover
Yea - basically when you are doing a front dig you are spinning up the side gears in the centre diff. Good thing though is that the front wheels will be doing twice the speed because of this so I shouldnt have to get on it as hard.

Sam

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:44 pm
by POS
Strange Rover wrote:Yea - basically when you are doing a front dig you are spinning up the side gears in the centre diff. Good thing though is that the front wheels will be doing twice the speed because of this so I shouldnt have to get on it as hard.

Sam


Been alot lighter it should steer around a bit easier too!!!

Also if you get YOUR SPOTTER to have more BEERS than he could help pull it around!! :lol: :lol:

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 11:44 pm
by GURU
G'day Sam,

I was thinking about doing a tube 100" bugy once i have finished my 90" project, but your sounds like it will be a killer !!

I'm thinking of building my project 90 on a 100" chassis now...I think 91" is too short :( I knew 100" was the happy medium before I started the project, but i wanted a 90, now I think 100" will be better for crawling

Re: Tube Buggy

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 2:13 pm
by cbr
Strange Rover wrote:Actually started welding today so hopefully this thing should happen fairly quickly.

Specs are going to be:-

4.4L P67 motor with rover heads
ZF auto
lt230 transfer with stock 3.3 gears
rover/toy hybrid diffs with 4.3 centres and longfields

Planning on using lots of rover stuff in this rig. Things like pedals, steering, brakes, dash (eventually), springs, and standard rover axle housing mountings (which means radius arms for the front and still using the stock centre ball joint in the rear).

Wheel base will be a stock 100 inches and basically all the major components (like motor/gearbox/transfer , axles , steering box, panhard etc) will all be in standard locations relative to each other. Which means that I will be using standard drive shafts also. Doing this makes it alot easier because Im basically just measuring of my disco to work out all the critical dimensions. Hopefully it will be running less than 3in of lift over stock as far as the front diff is concerned to try to keep all the front geometry not too far out of wack.

I want to run at least a 37in tyre for street work and will probably end up with my 42s on it for trailered wheeling.

The killer for all this is that Im hopping that I can get it fully street legal and properly street registered on 37in tyres. There are lots of hoops to jump through to get this but it is possible.

Should have something worth taking a pic of by the end of the weekend.

:cool:

Sam


Should be good keep us updated :cool:

Chris.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 2:24 pm
by GRIMACE
Aslong as this thread keeps progressin I AINT GONNA NEED TO LOOK AT PORN or by dirty mags :oops: :oops: :oops:
Heck i could even ditch by biatch and quit goin to the brothel :? :oops: :roll:

Sam your a bloody legend :armsup: I CANT WAIT :D

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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:23 pm
by POS
humphey wrote:sam when that one is finished can i have one ? ;) mate if its as good as the mog it will kick butt , nothin unusal for u blokes . :armsup: :armsup: :armsup:


Get in LINE, and wait your turn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :finger: :finger: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :finger: :finger: :finger: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:39 pm
by humphey
pos how far down the line am i ? when are we goin to see some pics? need some thing to run against bj ;)

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:35 pm
by landy_man
come on Sam....
we know you have pics....
quit teasing........
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:56 pm
by POS
I am going out tomorrow so the camera is ready!!!

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:13 pm
by POS
WOW!!!!

What a DAY!!!!!! Man i tell ya this Sam dude sort of knows a thing or two about building AWESOME RIGS!!!

I got out there this morning and basically Sam had the base and the link mounts tacked on!

I was suppose to be fixing the T/case in the POS but after seeing the buggy i thought that looked like more fun!!!

Here are some pics enjoy!!!!

(WARNING: The following pictures contain shots that may Exite some viewers. If you are easily excited by awesome Rigs, please keep tissues available for easy clean up.)

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:16 pm
by POS
:shock:

Sam trying it on for Size!!!

We got it to this stage by about 2.30!!!! :D :D :D :D

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:18 pm
by POS
DRIVE IT!!! :D :finger: :finger:

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:19 pm
by POS
We couldn't keep Sam out of it!!!!

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:21 pm
by POS
OR IS IT THAT HE JUST COULDN'T GET OUT!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:23 pm
by POS
RUFF IN A CRANKY!!!! :rofl: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:28 pm
by Strange Rover
Getting into and out of this thing is oging to cause problems!!

Sam

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:32 pm
by Strange Rover
Heres some pics that I took with the bonnet and series 2a grill.

Sam

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:34 pm
by landy_man
awsome man....amazing what you can accomplish in a day if you know what you are doing and have the right tools to do it with.. :D

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:39 pm
by POS
Strange Rover wrote:Heres some pics that I took with the bonnet and series 2a grill.

Sam


I think i might have some RICER blood in me, as the first thing i said when i saw that grill was "It would look good chromed". :shock: :lol:

Whats worse is that Sam agreed!!!!! :lol: :lol:

No, it needs some BLING BLING to finish it off!! :)

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:42 pm
by Strange Rover
landy_man wrote:awsome man....amazing what you can accomplish in a day if you know what you are doing and have the right tools to do it with.. :D


Even amazed us and we only half new what we were doing. It is a very cleverly designed frame (that I sort of copied off). Most of the tube work is actually all 2D. I think there is only one pair of tubes that were bent in 3D.

Big thanks to Adrian (POS) for all the help today. We went from his first pic to these above in about 6 hours and 18 XXXX gold stubbies between us. It was that bloody hot.

Heres a pic of the rig that Im basing mine off.

Sam

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:47 pm
by landy_man
number 5 is alive :lol:

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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:50 pm
by humphey
sam thats amazing , to get so much done in one day is one mean feit. u guy's are just FULL ON . :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup:

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 1:19 am
by cbr
If you get this thing legal, I want one :cool:

Chris.

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 12:03 pm
by DaveS3
Top work, this is going to be one top rig!! :armsup:

Well done guys!!!