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New Landcruiser V8 Turbo Diesel - 1VD-FTV
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:33 pm
by ShortAss40
Hey,
If anyone has any info on the new V8 twin turbo diesel engine, could ya post it here?
Hmmm, wonder if it'll fit in an 80
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 10:56 pm
by KaMo
Its only single turbo...
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:02 am
by bj on roids
try toyota you can tet drive at the moment
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:16 am
by letsplaychicken
The new 70 Series is a single turbo. HOWEVER, the forthcoming 200 Series (replacement for the 100 Series) is a twin turbo. Won't be released until late this year.
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/MiniS ... niSiteID=1
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Artic ... leID=21301
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:34 am
by dow50r
If you want to have a laugh, check one out in the flesh and tell me if you can find 1 turbo 2 injecters 3 waterpump ... gt the drift...imglad ots you wanting to transplant one....
Re: New Landcruiser V8 Turbo Diesel - 1VD-FTV
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:21 pm
by duck
ShortAss40 wrote:Hey,
If anyone has any info on the new V8 twin turbo diesel engine, could ya post it here?
Hmmm, wonder if it'll fit in an 80
thats what i was thinkiing to, but it would be very exxy to do it as it would be very hard to find a wrecked one
Re: New Landcruiser V8 Turbo Diesel - 1VD-FTV
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 1:23 pm
by Dak Dak
ShortAss40 wrote:Hey,
If anyone has any info on the new V8 twin turbo diesel engine, could ya post it here?
Hmmm, wonder if it'll fit in an 80
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/MiniS ... niSiteID=1
"The 200 Series is based on a new separate-chassis structure" - I read elsewhere they had to make it wider than the 100 series to fit in the new donk. Don't like your chances of getting it into an 80 series...?
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 2:12 pm
by V6XtraHilux
Ive just read in 4WD Monthly forum, that one of the new V8s has blown up outside of Roma in QLD, some Toyota D'ship has it in for warranty repairs and they cant find the reason for the blowup.
Also been told that the single turbo is at the height of the chassis rails in the left of the engine and about 300mm above the road!! Alternator is also low exposing it directly to mud, water etc, doesnt even have a bashplate or anything.
Looks like its a drive roads only kind of truck, for the moment, mb series 2 will be different!!!!! Doh
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 3:36 pm
by xrdave
Took a 70series for a test drive on tuesday, not bad.
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:25 pm
by letsplaychicken
dow50r wrote:If you want to have a laugh, check one out in the flesh and tell me if you can find 1 turbo 2 injecters 3 waterpump ... gt the drift...imglad ots you wanting to transplant one....
actually I completely missed the "drift"?
I am tipping that if you can fit a 6.5lt Chev V8 Turbo into an 80 series, you can probably shoehorn a toyota 4.5 V8 in too.
Toyota have made the engine bay wider in the
70 series to accomodate the new plant, but the 70 series was narrow to begin with. Plus I think this had more to do with the extra cooling required for the bigger donk - the old 70 series did have a narrower radiator to fit the layout. The 80 series should be okay.
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:00 pm
by Guy
letsplaychicken wrote:dow50r wrote:If you want to have a laugh, check one out in the flesh and tell me if you can find 1 turbo 2 injecters 3 waterpump ... gt the drift...imglad ots you wanting to transplant one....
actually I completely missed the "drift"?
I am tipping that if you can fit a 6.5lt Chev V8 Turbo into an 80 series, you can probably shoehorn a toyota 4.5 V8 in too.
Toyota have made the engine bay wider in the
70 series to accomodate the new plant, but the 70 series was narrow to begin with. Plus I think this had more to do with the extra cooling required for the bigger donk - the old 70 series did have a narrower radiator to fit the layout. The 80 series should be okay.
The chev diesal v8's are actually pretty compact for their displacement. No overhead cams ect ...
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:02 pm
by whoneedsbitumen
dow50r wrote:If you want to have a laugh, check one out in the flesh and tell me if you can find 1 turbo 2 injecters 3 waterpump ... gt the drift...imglad ots you wanting to transplant one....
And oil filter... mate and me spent haf an hour looking for it the other day
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:43 pm
by dow50r
Thats what i ment...definately a take to Toyota for service motor...the intercooler covers the motor, the injecter lines disappear under pipework...looks a nightmare to work on...that was my drift...and you want to put one in your 80...id be driving in and driving out with a lighter wallet and enjoying the ride....after they bring out the s2
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:02 pm
by ferrit
intercoolers are two clamps, 4 bolts lift off job (got a intercooled prado here- thats a 2 bolt, 2 clamp job)
try crawling underneath one to find the oil filter.
and if your fiddling with the injectors or lines, you've busted it and you shouldnt be touching it- Common rails arent DIY friendly!
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:53 pm
by colinsweir
Those new cruisers are shit cause the new prado has 410 nm of torque from a 3.0l 4 cylinder, when the 4.5 v8 only has 430 nm of torque. WHAT THE. I read that in 4x4 monthly.
But my uncle has one and he says its great but shit house on fuel.
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:19 am
by bj on roids
love_mud wrote:letsplaychicken wrote:dow50r wrote:If you want to have a laugh, check one out in the flesh and tell me if you can find 1 turbo 2 injecters 3 waterpump ... gt the drift...imglad ots you wanting to transplant one....
actually I completely missed the "drift"?
I am tipping that if you can fit a 6.5lt Chev V8 Turbo into an 80 series, you can probably shoehorn a toyota 4.5 V8 in too.
Toyota have made the engine bay wider in the
70 series to accomodate the new plant, but the 70 series was narrow to begin with. Plus I think this had more to do with the extra cooling required for the bigger donk - the old 70 series did have a narrower radiator to fit the layout. The 80 series should be okay.
spot on, they are giant in size, but displacement not so huge
The chev diesal v8's are actually pretty compact for their displacement. No overhead cams ect ...
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:34 am
by Tapage
colinsweir wrote:Those new cruisers are shit cause the new prado has 410 nm of torque from a 3.0l 4 cylinder, when the 4.5 v8 only has 430 nm of torque. WHAT THE. I read that in 4x4 monthly.
But my uncle has one and he says its great but shit house on fuel.
I also spect much more power from a common rail turbo from Toyota .. if you get 162 HP from the 1KD-FTV why not 300+ from a 4.5 V8
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:28 am
by shanegtr
colinsweir wrote:Those new cruisers are shit cause the new prado has 410 nm of torque from a 3.0l 4 cylinder, when the 4.5 v8 only has 430 nm of torque. WHAT THE. I read that in 4x4 monthly.
But my uncle has one and he says its great but shit house on fuel.
True, but I bet the prado doesent hit max torque at 1200rpm like the v8
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:32 am
by Gwagensteve
Tapage wrote:colinsweir wrote:Those new cruisers are shit cause the new prado has 410 nm of torque from a 3.0l 4 cylinder, when the 4.5 v8 only has 430 nm of torque. WHAT THE. I read that in 4x4 monthly.
But my uncle has one and he says its great but shit house on fuel.
I also spect much more power from a common rail turbo from Toyota .. if you get 162 HP from the 1KD-FTV why not 300+ from a 4.5 V8
It's all down to emissions. My guess it that once the aftermarket get onto them they will get some pretty big numbers out of them.
Emissions legislation is one of the big factors limiting diesel output. Also, Toyta are typically very conservative with their tuning to maximise reliability.
I would have thought the maximum HP of a 4.5 litre V8 will only be marginally higher than a 4.2 litre 6 in any case. I can't see 140 hp in 300cc.
Steve.
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:04 am
by Tapage
Gwagensteve wrote:Tapage wrote:colinsweir wrote:Those new cruisers are shit cause the new prado has 410 nm of torque from a 3.0l 4 cylinder, when the 4.5 v8 only has 430 nm of torque. WHAT THE. I read that in 4x4 monthly.
But my uncle has one and he says its great but shit house on fuel.
I also spect much more power from a common rail turbo from Toyota .. if you get 162 HP from the 1KD-FTV why not 300+ from a 4.5 V8
It's all down to emissions. My guess it that once the aftermarket get onto them they will get some pretty big numbers out of them.
Emissions legislation is one of the big factors limiting diesel output. Also, Toyta are typically very conservative with their tuning to maximise reliability.
I would have thought the maximum HP of a 4.5 litre V8 will only be marginally higher than a 4.2 litre 6 in any case. I can't see 140 hp in 300cc.
Steve.
Hopefully you have reason .. and we get options for " chips " than increasae in more than 100 HP the stock numbers for those V8 engines ..
Or maybe we can make some " things " to swap the twin turbo setup.
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:20 pm
by me3@neuralfibre.com
I thought it was only the 7x series had to have the chassis widened, as they were narrowoer than the 80/100.
Be interesting to throw a tape across the V8 chassis mounts and hte HZJ105 and HZJ80 and compare.
Also - anyone know if the bell housing and crankshaft outputs are the same. Could bolt up to earlier Gearboxes then.
Finally, is the Gearbox and Engine ECU tied to each other. If not, swapping gets easier.
Paul