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im after new suspension on my middy, need 2" lift over standard to clear 33's (thats the concensus), mostly onroad bugger all load in it except high mount and bar, will do occaional towing. not sure if should get spring lift or whole new suspension. so JAKE has arb suspension on his middy, and RoscoFJ73 has put in Dobinsons on his. what does everyone else have/recommend????

ps inc SWB because thought suspension mite be similar, ie spring rates etc to get decent ride.



Thanks in advance

Lance

lance OME leaf suspension kit comes with greasable pins and shackles and the leafs will give ya 2inches of lift... but they arent cheap but they are tuff as i give mine an absolute floggin sometimes and they still scream for more!!!!

greasable shackle kit (x4 pins & x4 shackles): $414-
nitro charger shocks (x4) : $568-
full set of bushes : $120-
leafs (x4 packs) : aprox $2000-
total: $3102-

and thats not with the fitting charge either

i dont know what ive got but is saged so im looking at new suspension too. i thought about the dobinsons on mine if i can get it at a price around roscofj73. if not ill look at getting a spealist shop to make up my spring packs. ive heard ome are more for touring and dont hold up to well over time. but jakes seem to be ok.

Ruggers wrote:i dont know what ive got but is saged so im looking at new suspension too. i thought about the dobinsons on mine if i can get it at a price around roscofj73. if not ill look at getting a spealist shop to make up my spring packs. ive heard ome are more for touring and dont hold up to well over time. but jakes seem to be ok.

awwe what do ya mean "ok" they are like bloody rubber bands boing boing boing its just the OME shocks that are bottoming out ive taken the front shocks of the diff mount and i can get 2 to 2 and a half inches of extra travel outter them but they do make abit of noise doin so but i plan to fix that with both johnny joints and superior drop shackles

went to local arb and mob who sell tjm this morning:
arb first:
leafs: front 67 $270 each
rear 221a/b $330 each
total: $1200

shocks 125 each total $500

shackles: rear $145 shackles and pins
front $180 shackles and pins
total: $325 not sure if this one is right????

u bolts rear $36. didn't list for front

tjm (not very clued up, had to call head office or some shit. didnt ask about dobinson, will call around i think find someone who knows what they are talking about)

front leafs: $250 each
rear leafs: $300 each
total $1100

Lance when I got mine I was the 1st in WA as they had only just started selling them(aug/sep).They also had to be trucked in from the eastern states but it only took a week from the time I ordered.
Jenkins suspension is an established WA company that has been around since 1920s also sells springs around the $600 mark .They were my original choice until dobinsons low price +quality come along.

it really comes down to weather or not you have the money to spend and get the quality sh1t lance... but keep ya eye out mate there is always a bargan to be had on here or in the tradin post

go and get a quote from ya local custom leaf bloke and see what he has to say.... you maybe pleasently surprised but then again you cood be shocked too

JAKE wrote:it really comes down to weather or not you have the money to spend and get the quality sh1t lance... but keep ya eye out mate there is always a bargan to be had on here or in the tradin post

go and get a quote from ya local custom leaf bloke and see what he has to say.... you maybe pleasently surprised but then again you cood be shocked too

yeah JAKE, will be keeping look out for bargain. i love bargains
will go round to suspension place 2moro, have rdo , see what they reckon.

Hi Lance.

Shocks: Rancho RS5000's $520 (4) or $792 in the 9000X.

RC leaf-springs (SUP9) steel $990 (4). Supplied as appropriate.
U-bolts (high-tensile) $70.40 (full set)
RC urethane bushes with rifled bores $132 (full set)
RC greaseable shackles and pins $212 (full set)

If you are going to run 33" muds on this vehicle, I also recommend fitting an RTC damper $165.

For each of the components listed, there is a link on our website that details what makes their application so special -

Take our challenge.

At the moment we are running a deal where we bear the cost of insured road freight. Payment can be made by credit card, money order, funds transfer or COD post.

If you would like to order, just let me know.

Regards,

Kirk Barker.

this obviously is from autoalliance, anyone use their stuff? are the leafs ok and what do people think of rancho shocks??? would lean to rs5000 atm if shocks do need to be replaced.

as JAKE said, if have money then get good quality shit. what does this include???? arb/tjm/dobinsons/rancho??? not 4wd systems??? etc. help please!!! dont want to go and buy suspension and find its crap.

cheers
Lance

Lance what sort of offroading do want to do?
A Family sort of stuff camping,sightseeing,exploring tracks trails ect and back to hauling family around on Monday
B Heavy duty stuff spending all day most weekends using full axle articulation
If its A something like mine will more than suffice
If its B then then get something like Jakes keeping in mind there will be additional $$$ upkeep on the vehicle

I dont want to sound as if Im pushing Dobinsons barrow but I checked out their site and read all their quality control blurb and was sold.
In my long journey looking for springs I found out some brands of leaf springs are imported from India an other blast furnaces in SE asia and tend to ride hard and dont last long.Some riffraff mix and match quality leaves with cheap imported ones .
Also look for the military or double wrap where 2 leaves wrap around the shackle in case one breaks (dobinsons have this)
There are also shops out there selling plain brand springs and I suspect these are the imports,dont touch them.
For shockies if your going to go top dollar on the springs then you need a shock to match ,Ranchos,Konis ect ,otherwise there is a multitude of medium priced ones out here that will do.Ive got Powerdown adjustables that were on the vehicle when I got it .According to the PO they are over 18 months old and 2 suspension shops have said they have still got plenty of miles left in them
The greasable shackles I got for $15 are same as standard ones except they are greasable and normally cost $25. Obviously they are not the heavy duty type ,but hell,they will still take you a long way.

Hope I dont sound like Im lecturing but I thought buying springs would be easy .Im glad I didnt have a pocket full of money when I started because most of the shops are bu#l%hi& artsts and im sure I would have gotten ripped off.As jake said there are bargains out there ,you just got to be patient and remember salesmen are NOT your friends until proven otherwise.Dont be scared to tell them you want to pay less as they will often come up with discounts.

nah, thanks Rosco. i like getting non pimped views on this forum, whether from questions i ask or reading other peoples threads.

i'd love to be doing the option B - hard core shit. but lets be honest, i'm a relative newbie to 4wd and hoping to join club soon and start doing some more driving. so realistically i'm at option A, at least till i get better.

i'm going to check out prices on dobinson round here next few days, did go to local spring joint quoted $350ish to reset, $500 to pull springs, reset and put back in. so can save $150 if remove springs myself, but would need chassis stands, prob 4t to get height, thats 200 bucks for 2 pairs.

Lance ,hang tight Ill see if I can get them at that price again.I rang them today but they were all busy (that time of year) so Ill try again tomorrow so check your PM tommorrow.

sounds good Rosco.

Jake and Bluey ,what do you guys get if you measure from the centre of your headlights to the ground?
I got 1.010

FJ40 SWB lengthened main leaves, rerolled to accept larger bushes, cut rear guards and 35s soon

Bluey check your personal messages

can you resend Rosco???

Rosco, still havent recieved anything. computer/web site farked up last night, couldnt load new threads or even get back to forum index.

Im not sure if the message was sent I had to do it twice but I think it worked this time.Must be their server

bumping this to top as will finally (2 weeks) have $ to get suspension fixed.

spoke to local 4wd place (now live pointy end of the state) and quoted old man emu $1920, and apm $1240. apparantly apm made same factory as ultimate ? these prices for springs, u bolts, greaseables

rang largish (adverts etc every month 4wd monthly) melb company who advertise dobinson, but dont have prices!

rang another large company this one does custom stuff (adverts etc every month 4wd monthly) this time in sydney who advertise dobinson, reckoned for leaf trucks better to use ultimate suspension, quoted around $1200. think this was springs only


so, are these brands allright or should i keep calling around for dobinsons. really liked sound of rosco's experience with dobinson, next option would be same as jake ome. if necessary will pay $2k for good brand, but feel better if someone else uses them and they are well known

I bought Terrain Tamer suspension,mainly for the price.$160 ea.I feel it was money well spent (FJ40)
Mark