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hilux diff q

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:15 pm
by mud4b
i know this has been asked before and dont tell me to search but.....

i can fit the high pinion in the lux diff but can i run the steering bar(cant remember what it called) under that so all i have at the front of the diff
is the bar that goes to the box?

or is it better to just get the bundy diff.....

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:17 pm
by Wendle
some fawker in QLD runs the exact setup you are describing on his bright red bucket of pus! :D :finger:

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:21 pm
by bubs
you need bundera steering arms

unless someone else knows another way :?:

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:21 pm
by mud4b
it comes std on my sierra and when the lux diffs go under there id like to keep it that way......

who is the fawker eh?and how did he do it?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:35 pm
by bubs
POS - bundera steering arms

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:39 pm
by mud4b
do these bolt up to the lux diff?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:42 pm
by spazbot
POS runs it as you described
you could possibly do it with hi steer arms mounted backwards (similar has been discussed on pirate) the then the tierod would sit above the diffcenter not sure how it works with accerman angles and hitting the brake calipers.
What about the steering arms off a 80 series??? will they mount onto a hilux?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:49 pm
by bubs
80 series - no

bundera - yes

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:54 pm
by mud4b
sweet bundera it is then.......thanks all

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 8:56 pm
by POS
bubs wrote:80 series - YES!!!!! ;) ;)
bundera - yes


80 series fit just fine!!!! :)

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 8:05 am
by bubs
did a serch and learnt something

found this on pirate

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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:19 am
by robbie
so, in other words - I could change my hi-pinion to a normal hilux diff & would then need to change my steering to hi-steer or something?

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:26 am
by bubs
yeah, you could use hysteer or maybe chaos's flat steering arms might be a better choice with the no lift bundy :?:

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:30 am
by robbie
well.. just thinking of my plan

cause 4.88 high-pinion diffs are starting to get rare as hens teeth..

what would the price be to convert my steering to what you're talking about buddy?

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:34 am
by bubs
chaos hysteer arms are $650 last time i called, hope fully you would be able to use your original steering linkages :?:

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:42 am
by robbie
hmm.. for that price, I could get a hi-pinion 4.88 and then some..dont think its viable..

will probably just save my cash and wait for one to turn up!

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:07 am
by bubs
here is your cheeper solution

get 75 series landcruiser steering

here are some pics of a 60 series, which works on the same princinple , but the 75 series steering arm castings are bigger - stronger

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:10 am
by bubs
I wonder if the owner of this perfect stock 60 series cruiser ever thought his cruiser would become a part of outerlimits 4x4 tech!

this was parked 50m from my office

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:14 am
by bubs
With this steering dont be worried about the tierod, just get a aftermarket tie rod

I have one on mine solid 30mm 4130, has had some major hits and still checks out against the straight edge :cool: - i got mine from 4x4 Engineering (07) 3344 1181

You can see it, the rusty bits you see is all the rock rash :cool:

I destroyed 2 stock ones over a period of 12 months, didn't wheel much, put this on and never had a problem since

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:21 pm
by Wendle
bubs wrote:here is your cheeper solution

get 75 series landcruiser steering



murphy says that his panhard will foul the tie rod if he does that. measure it all up first..

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:26 pm
by bubs
panhard :?:

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:32 pm
by bubs
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without having a close look at a one in real life i would think that it might come close to clearing everything :?:

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:51 pm
by mud4b
im lost now...do i use the bundy gear or 80 series or what.

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:54 pm
by bubs
either

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:59 pm
by mud4b
what ratio do the 80 series come in?

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:00 pm
by bubs
4.1's i believe :?

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:01 pm
by mud4b
not good.

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:07 pm
by bubs
why?

we have established

you can use a hy-pinon from the numerous models bundera, 80 series etc

you can use the steering arms from either a 80 series or bundera

and this will all bolt into your hilux houisng which you already have

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:16 pm
by mud4b
yes but the 80 series takes my crawl ratio down to 91.33.

but it will be better on the road at 100ks.

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:26 pm
by bubs
you are still going to be lower than a hilux with dual case running stock gears