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gas turbo in winch comps.
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:37 pm
by chunderlicious
for the comp guys mainly.
how does running straight gas on a TB42 turbo go for the day or weekend? as most comps are away from gas carrying petrol stations. how is the consumption through the event. i dont care about economy just tossing up between converting to EFI turbo or throwing on straight gas and a 150 litre tank and get rid of fuel. are there any reliablility issues to contend with during whinch events with all (Dr. frink voice on)the water and mud and hivon claven.(Dr. Frink voice off)
cheers
Evan
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:22 pm
by Rhysta
Most gas cars ive seen at the comps all run twin tanks..
So if it were me id run a 110L usable or ther abouts underneith and a 75L usable in the backso it doesnt take up as much room.
That should be enough for the weekend id say, but some cars are different to others. May mean a trailer ride in..
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:32 pm
by ludacris
150 litres is heaps. I had 4.2 non turbo carbie and 88 usable litres. Use to drive from kilcoy to cruiser, race and then drive back to kilcoy and had only used 60l of gas.
Ludacris
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:43 pm
by chunderlicious
fair enough. might go that way then, i know a turbo may double those figures luda but i will be trailering to comps i think. so it should be all sweet. thanx guys
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:21 pm
by bagsy
I have 160 usable litres in mine and that will get me approx 280 to 300 klms in 4 wheel and giving it heaps

. but on the highway I can get 500 klms . cheers shane...............
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:38 am
by MyGQ
I had a 100L usable LPG on my Dual Fuel Maverick. i got 450-500K's around town and between 700-800 on the freeway.
If you go straight Gas u can get better figures.
if your going straight gas, either get a gas research carby or get an EFI manifold and throttle body and do it that way.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:22 am
by TURBO GQ
ive got twin tanks, but long distance travel is always a bit of a worry.
I'm thinking of getting spare gas tanks like off the forklifts and changing over tanks, not sure how it will work, but looking into it. There only bout 60lt but could be enough to keep you going.
Thats the only problem with gas, otherwise its great, dosnt cut out on steep angles, which is great. After owning a carby model before hand.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:17 pm
by badger
you got a gq now chunder?
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:49 pm
by turps
Birdys used to be straight gas turbo. Rumour was the only reason he went back to petrol, was range etc for the OBC.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:51 pm
by chunderlicious
yeah GQ is just easier for the stuff i wanna do

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i know about the gas research setup etc. just after info if it would make a weekend of xtreme winch etc. without having to return to town to fill up.
thanks guys
appreciated.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:07 pm
by Mulisha
I got turbo tb42 and i filled up last night and i use 33L per 100k's at this stage but i have been driving it fairly hard
Rick..
I only got 90L useable and i'm worried how i'm going to go anywere as my range would be 270kms
Anyone got sources or sites or anything on those forklift bottle as u can fit one under drivers side and then run another 60L right in the back and then u would be fine for longer trips !
Cheers
Rick..
Maybe everyone needs to put there heads together and try find a source for Forklift Bottles on the cheaper side not brand new ones becuase that might be the key to keep fuel up these thirsty animals..

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:52 pm
by simcoe
[quote="MyGQ"]I had a 100L usable LPG on my Dual Fuel Maverick. i got 450-500K's around town and between 700-800 on the freeway.
sh1t..howd ya get those km's..??!!
iv just got the 90 usable and i get at the most 400 on the high way and 350 odd round town and thats taking it easy!!!
4.5 gu 3 inch lift 33's
think it could be chip and dyno time

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:47 pm
by Mulisha
simcoe wrote:MyGQ wrote:I had a 100L usable LPG on my Dual Fuel Maverick. i got 450-500K's around town and between 700-800 on the freeway.
sh1t..howd ya get those km's..??!!
iv just got the 90 usable and i get at the most 400 on the high way and 350 odd round town and thats taking it easy!!!
4.5 gu 3 inch lift 33's
think it could be chip and dyno time

That's sounds about right ..
When i had my car on dual fuel and it was tunned and all new plugs and everything in that area got 350kms to 90L gas..
Now i get 270kms to tank with the turbo..
Rick.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:49 pm
by badger
tis ok mate. u were just about building a patrol with a yota shell before anyways, tis the same reason i sold the bundy.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:11 pm
by Zac Zec
My petrol turbo 6 gets about 400k's to 100 ltrs which i thought was pretty good. Why go gas if you already got efi

If you are going to do comps i think the $10 youll save on fuel would be the least of your worries
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:14 pm
by Zac Zec
Just read your post properly

Well if you are not worried about consumption. Go efi

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:23 pm
by chunderlicious
efi engines are getting hard to come by now. and expensive aswell

so thats why im leaning towards gas.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:28 pm
by Zac Zec
The efi heads are a lot better. Not so much flow wise but they dont crack as easy as the carby ones. Apparently they changed the casting
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:50 am
by MyGQ
EFI heads also have a very very slight increase in compression. the Carby has 8.3:1 and the EFI had 8.5:1.
As for my patrol getting 450-500 around town and 700-800 on freeway i don't really know how i got it. i had a Sprint gas setup, it had a rather large LPG converter that apparently was more designed for big V8's, ran it pretty low on the gas cause a 4.2L doesn't pull all that much into the engine.
I also had a bit of head work done when it cracked, had new Gas valves installed, all hardened for use with straight gas systems. Added to that i had a Crane Cam Electronic ignition system installed to the dizzy, which gave me alot cleaner spark. Lastly i got extractors and a 2.5" straight though exhaust system.
I now have a Diesel and looking at turboing that baby.